Bibleline Radio Show – 2006-07-07 – Signs of living in the shadow of the Anti-Christ

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Come to Bibleline with Dr. Hank Lindstrom. Coming to you from Calvary Community Church in Tampa, Florida. Declaring God’s love through radio and television. Providing real answers to an ever searching world. Got a question? Dial toll free at 1-800-576-3771. That’s 1-800-576-3771. Now here’s the host of Bibleline, Dr. Hank Lindstrom. with you today. Thanks for tuning into the broadcast. We are coming to you live from our studios in Tampa, Florida, the Calvary Community Church where I am the pastor and we look forward to being with you Monday through Friday as we come to you live from Tampa, Florida.

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happened to by blind so we will continue to be on the air in richmond on the station out of Chester Virginia eight twenty on the amdile wg g m all right well what is interesting is the bush administration apparently is quietly planning for a naphtha superhighway on the internet. I just read this quietly but systematically the Bush administration is advancing the plan to build a huge NAFTA superhighway. Four football fields wide through the heart of the U.S. along Interstate 35 from the Mexican border at Laredo, Texas through the Canadian border north of the Luth, Minnesota.

One complete once complete the new road will allow containers from the far east to enter the United States to the Mexican port of Lorazo by passing the longshoreman union in the process. The Mexican trucks without the involvement of the Team sters Union will drive on what will be the nation’s most modern highway straight into the heart of America. The Mexican trucks will pass a border in fast lanes checked only by electronic surveillance system and the first custom stops will be a Mexican customs office in Kansas City.

Their new smart port complex is also being built from Mexico at a cost of 3 million to the US taxpayers in Kansas City. Sounds incredible, but as this article concludes it says, in the last paragraph, a good reason Bush does not want to secure the borders with Mexico, may be that the administration is trying to create express lanes for Mexican trucks to bring containers with cheap far East goods into the heart of the US, all without the involvement of any US union workers on the docks or in the trucks.

This is a huge highway. Four football fields wide and will cut right across America and there will be travel between in Mexico and Canada. And apparently he is trying to make a union between Mexico and Canada, the American union, so that the three countries will become one, at least economically at first. But we’re seeing the one-world government, I think, beginning to emerge on the one-world buying and selling with NAFTA and how that we’re just moving quickly toward the tribulation period.

leaving at the rapture. I believe this country is the country out of which the Antichrist will come. Definitely it talks about in Daniel 7 verse 8 about how that there would be ten nations out of Europe that were part of the ancient Roman Empire that would come back together in the last days. And then out of those ten there would be another nation, an eleventh nation that would be younger than, stronger than, that would be birthed by Europe, that would wind up eventually taking over Europe.

We believe that that could only be the United States. We are the only young country birthed by Europe that is younger than and stronger than Europe. And according to Daniel 7.8, we will pluck up three as the 11th nation, three of the European countries by the roots. That would be easy for an American president to do, wouldn’t it? Because our military is right there in Europe. All he has to do is a Supreme Commander of our Armed Forces, say, take them, and three countries will fall to their knees the rest from this say we give up.

And according to the book of Daniel, the United States will control Europe as well as much of the Americas. And then, of course, together they will wind of controlling the Middle East, all of which was ancient Assyria will become under the control of the United States, including Israel. As the Bible says, the Antichrist will not only take over the countries like Saudi Arabia. Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, but also Israel and of course Egypt. And that is an interesting scenario as we see ourselves very much involved in the Middle East and we’re not going anywhere.

And the Bible of course predicts exactly this scenario. And then of course opposing all of this would be Russia and China, eventually bringing about the Battle of Armageddon at the end of the Tribulation period. I’m ready. How about you? I think we can see the handwriting on the wall that we’re moving rapidly, rapidly toward exactly the scenario the Bible presents. If you want to see some interesting things, get my CDs on Daniel and or on Revelation or both and a lot of these things are detailed and you’ll find it a very fascinating commentary on the book of Daniel Revelation which reveal Many of these things which are reading about it are headlines today.

We hope that you’ll enjoy those series if you get the CD series on Revelation, 12 hours of teaching on the book of Revelation, and 10 hours on the book of Daniel, verse by verse. I think you’ll find it fascinating. Of course the most important thing you need to be concerned about is if you were to die right now, would you go to heaven? And if you have not trusted Jesus Christ as your only means of salvation, then you need to do that.

If you trust Christ plus anything else, you really haven’t trusted Christ and you’re not saved. It’s amazing how many who call themselves Christian are really not trusting Christ because they’re trusting in other things. If you were to go down to the dock and you have a small boat that you’re going to get on to. Are you trusting the boat to hold you if you’re only having one foot on the boat and the other foot is still on the dock?

The answer is of course no. Let’s say you take both feet off the dock and put them on the boat but you’re still holding on to the piling on the dock. Are you trusting the boat to hold you? The answer is no. Let’s say you take one hand off of the dock and you still have two feet on the boat but But you still have one hand connected to the dock. Are you trusting the boat? The answer is no.

Not until you sever all connections with the dock and fully rest your weight upon the boat. Have you trusted the boat to hold your weight? And it’s not until you sever all ties to baptism, mass, confirmation, prayers, penance, baptism, confirmation, whatever it might be. simply trust Jesus Christ as your Savior, you cannot and will not be saved. A lot of people are surprised to hear that. In other words, they say, well, if I’m trusting in these other things in addition to Christ, doesn’t that make me more saved or make me more secure?

And the answer is absolutely not. In fact, it means that you’ve canceled, made void God’s offer of salvation, which is based only upon your trusting Christ. If you trust something else or anyone else other than Christ or in addition to Christ, you are not saved. You must trust Christ and Christ alone. The Bible is very clear. Romans 4-5 says to him that does not work, but would believe or trust in Jesus Christ, his faith in Christ is counted for righteousness.

So in order to be saved, you have to meet that formula. You have to come recognizing you cannot work. not trusting in any work that you might do but trusting fully in what Jesus Christ has done for you. I’m Dr. Inchins from this is Bibleline. We’re going to go right to the phone lines. We have lots of all fair questions. We’ll try to get them all tidied up today and we’re going to go now to Joe in Fort Lauderdale, Florida and Joe, welcome to Bibleline.

Great to have you on the air. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you. I’m happy that you’re seeing me be feeling better and that they’re getting near and normal so we’re crazy lord about that thank you uh… on this on the same station that you’re on down here in the afternoon there’s a radio station called voice a prophecy yes and uh… i heard the announcement at the end of the show where they said it brought to you by the church of the seventh day adventist and i was just wondering what the church of the seventh day adventist believes that well they deny hell and they also really say uh…

that satan ultimately is the sin bear not christ you know if you becomes a bit as you will be getting your doctrine and reading the bible to the lenses of lg white and they have a number of really uh… what go doctor ins that she taught and they’ll never come clean in fact many categorizes of the administered as a cult because they The doctor and the doctor and the patient alone in Christ came up with a date for the return of Christ back in the 1800s.

Instead of admitting that they had the date wrong, they said they had the date right, but the appointment was not in the hospital. The Bible is a major doctrine that came up with a date for the return of Christ back in the 1800s. Instead of admitting that they had the date wrong, they said they had the date right but the event. So they invented this crazy doctrine of Christ entering into the Holy of Holies in heaven and beginning what is called by them, the investigative judgment where Christ is now in the process of weighing the works of all believers to see if they are worthy of grace.

So in one breath they will say, you are saved by grace, in the other breath they say which is completely contrary to the way the Bible defines grace, that grace is merited or given given out based upon your work. So ultimately you’re saved by works according to the seven Adventists and of course they worship on the Sabbath which of course that’s under the Old Testament law. We’re not under the law. Colossians 2 16 says that therefore we’ll no man judge you in meat or in drink or in respect of the holy days or of the Sabbath day.

Why? Because Christ took those Old Testament laws, nailed them to His cross and took them out of the way if you read the context there in in caution to and are the passages we could turn to but I I believe that these people are lost and I believe they need our prayers and I believe that they obviously are trying to earn their way to heaven they generally follow the Old Testament law and the dietary laws and they generally don’t eat meat and a number of other things and by the way it says in first Timothy chapter 4 that to forbid people to eat meat is a doctrine of demons.

That is interesting. You can be a vegetarian if you want to, but for a religious organization to say you cannot eat meat is a doctrine of demons according to the Bible. And apparently there is some connection between not eating meat and mind control. Most all the cults don’t let their people eat meat. And there seems to be a connection there between that and mind control, the ability to control the minds of the people is enhanced if they don’t let the people eat meat.

Wow. Okay, well great. Thank you so much, Pastor, and you have an awesome weekend. Thank you, Joe, that was Joe down in Fort Lauderdale, and I’m probably going to get a lot of seven to end, but it’s now call me. But go ahead and call me. I’m praying for you people that are obviously in trance with LNG White. Just throw her books away and read the Bible, and you’re going to come out fine. We’re now going to go to Greg in Lakeland, Florida.

Greg, welcome to Violites. Thanks, I mentioned the evangelical free church. And I’m Baptist. And he told me he goes, you should really check out the evangelical free church. And see there’s an eerie area. And there is one in my area. And he says, well, they believe this way. Baptist, why? Look up on the internet, evangelical free. I’m not afraid of him, even Jell, whenever he goes. And I love those things to say and everything seems to be red on cue.

Everything seems just right. But I’ve been around for a while. But I’ve been around since 1950. I can’t help but film it. I’m not seeing. do you know anything about this denomination but i need no doubt well uh… i can’t tell you a whole lot but i know that they uh… apparently talk about grace uh… and and being saved by grace uh… i’m gonna have to do my homework and and come back at you with that i know for a while uh…

apparently uh… chuxwind all was uh… a spokesperson for at least in and pastor church was a part of the evangelical free church movement and uh… so that uh… says good for it but uh… i i think i’ll uh… hold off and get back to you and let me see what i can find out the meantime well fair enough about that operator for a time so i don’t don’t forget to do that they’re doing right now thank you great all right thank you doctor all right we now have uh…

uh… richard and richard calls in from uh… for a lot of the old and uh… welcome to the program richard yes hello that they’re paying how are you good I’m calling about the comments on the 7th the Adventist. I just wanted to say that I was born and raised 7th the Adventist. I heard you show that I really understand what the Bible said and it’s incredible how informed you are.

Keep on doing what you’re doing because the first few times I heard the show might be checking into Bible as well, so keep out the good work. Well, thank you, Richard. So you were raised as a seven-dad dentist and apparently then probably the first time you heard me irritated you because what I said is obviously you’re probably going to stir some waves with a seven-dad dentist, but really they are blinded by the writings of El N G White. They really are, you know, read they read and interpret the Bible through her lenses and I don’t think they’ll ever ever change any of their doctrines as long as they don’t cut her out of the picture.

You’re absolutely right. I spoke to a few hundred seven day Adventist that I know and I actually told them to listen to your show and tell me what they thought which are as well so out of control I mean you don’t even do you listen to what someone else has to say that you’re doing something wrong thing but I’m hard-headed so I didn’t really I’m really glad that I got to hear your show and that I listened to it every day.

Beautiful thank you Richard and we’ll see if we get some 7-inch events on the other side calling it today thanks so much for your call. All right that was Richard apparently he saw the 7-inch exposed through Bible and we’re now gonna go to Burt down in my Emmy Florida and hurt welcome to the Bible and you’re on the earth. Good morning pastor. Good morning. Sir, I have a question for you. Are demons created beings like angels or created beings?

Well the demons really are the fallen angels the ones that followed Satan in his rebellion so they are angels but they’re the fallen angels and they are called the demons in the New Testament. Now in Genesis when I talked about about and I heard your commentary on the sons of God and the daughters of men and what the sons of God had been showing with the daughters of men. Right. That is not angels at all. No. Well, yeah, I had heard a commentary.

I read an article actually the other day about this person who wrote the articles of Inimos that these must be fallen angels that entered into men and that was his explanation. I’ve heard your take on it that they come from the line of steps. What do you think about that? Well, I think this is a terrible error. I remember when I first heard this that I thought to myself, this sounds like Greek mythology. But first of all, angels don’t marry and they don’t have sex.

If you read Matthew 22.30, Jesus said angels don’t marry. And they’re trying to say that these were angels who married women and had babies. Secondly, Hebrews 1-5 says that God never called an angel his son. So in the story, that’s the end of the argument right there, God never called an angel his son. We are made higher than the angels according to the Bible when we trust Christ. We were lower than the angels in our creation, but when we trust Christ, God makes us or we become born again and we become his sons.

And it says in 1 John 3-2, one of my favorite verses, says Beloved, What Manner of Love, the Father hath bestowed upon us that we should be called the sons of God. He never called an angel his son Hebrews 1 5. And then thirdly they try to say that there were giants that were the result of the marriages but they don’t read their Bible very carefully because if you read Genesis 6 4 it says there were giants in the earth in those days and also after that after that after that they miss it after that after that I can’t see how they miss that but they missed the after that then the sons of God came in unto the elders and men bear children to them so the the transfer already there before the marriages so I just don’t understand how people can’t read the

Bible and it’s pretty simple and get it right but they’ve missed it up on all these points so I can’t accept that all that these are angels they cannot be. But however if you believe like I believe that demons are actually fallen angels and yes i do you can enter and you can enter human beings they get it well but they can have sex with right but they can’t for you now these fallen angels and in the world men Wouldn’t they be considered sons of God if these fallen angels in dwelt men?

No. The angels would never be called the son of God or be even considered that. And by the way demons can’t involve a believer, only unbelievers. And so these, or the sons of God, I think were obviously clearly the believers. And they were marrying the daughters of men which are clearly unbelieving women. And so the the principal God established that believers should marry other believers was violated and the gospel wasn’t carried down in the homes to the children so the whole generation quickly just drifted off such that only one family found grace in the eyes of the Lord and that was no one his family.

So what do you believe the sons of God are? They were believers. Just like today, John 1, 12, to as many as received Christ, today God gave authority for them to become the sons of God. So you are a believer if you are, you are a son of God. And I am, I became born again when I was 18 and became a son of God’s family. But unbelievers are not the sons of God and certain angels are not. So thank you so much.

We are out of time and we are going to have to go to break. But I hope that helps. Definitely God never called an angel his son, Hebrews 1 5, jot that down, write it on your wall, it just nails it forever. God never called an angel his son. We’re going to take a break and we’re going to come back and do the second half of Bibleline and we hope you’ll keep your radio down tuned right where it is and we’ll be coming right back to do the second half of Bible.

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We’re gonna go to the phone lines again right now and we’re gonna go first to Harold in Tampa, Florida and Harold welcome to by the way you’re on the air the morning so it’s always a pleasure that’s a quick question for you and matthew chapter seventeen we see where uh… jesus takes uh… peter james and john of to the mount and we see a blimp sub moses and he lies there but we know that christ is the first fruit of those who slept and he wrote how do we explain moses and eliza and i’m going to hang up in and let you speak Alrighty, well what we are seeing there is actually the second coming of Christ and how God is going to fulfill the earthly promises He’s made to Israel for an earthly kingdom a peace on earth good will toward men and so

Because we are in the what we call the church age or the age of grace or dispensation of grace It’s called that directly in Ephesians 3-2, the dispensation of grace, which began at Pentecost, ends at the Rapture. We of course will get our resurrection bodies at the Rapture, but when Christ comes back, Moses and Elijah will come back with him, and of course he’ll establish his kingdom here on the earth. And the Jews will be the head nation. Jerusalem will become the world’s capital, and Christ will rule over the Jews as their king.

all the kings of the earth, so Christ will be king of kings and more of lords, and he shall reign forever and ever and ever.” So that’s exciting, but basically… The New Testament is still hanging out there to tick off the clock. It is called the annual 70th week according to Daniel chapter 9. A week of years that still has not happened during which the Antichrist will rise to power during which the Antichrist will rise to the power of the Lord.

during which a third temple will be rebuilt. Jewish sacrifices will be offered again on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, and the Antichrist will desecrate that temple in the middle of the tribulation and cause the sacrifices to cease. You read that in Daniel 9, 27, and he will do that right in the middle of the tribulation period according to Daniel 9, 27, and then he will rule over the Western world until the second coming when Christ defeats him, and he comes back in all of his power and all of as you see in the mid-17 and he comes back with Moses and Elijah.

I hope that helps a little bit, but we’re on Jewish territory. That’s why Moses and Elijah are there and we’re excited about that. Alright, we’re now going to go to, let’s see here. I think I just, when somebody else, I shouldn’t have, I’m sorry about that. We’re not going to go to Jackie in the land floor, and I thought I was hanging up here, but I’m going to have a new caller. Sorry about that. We’ll get you back up.

Becky, welcome to Bibleline you’re on here. Uh, Jackie, are you there? I am here. Wonderful. Okay. You’re on here. Good morning, Dr. Longston. Good morning. Um, I, uh, have a couple questions, and then I’m going to hang up and listen to you. Okay? Sure. One question I have about the Sons of God, um, it has to do with the Book of Job, Bob, when God calls the answer God, sort of like an around table to discuss Job, I guess, I would like for you to talk about that.

So, very question I have. You explained so beautifully about the particular religion and how they had gone astray because of common tears. Yes. My question, I’d like for you to explain what do I tell my friends that go from door to door? Well, they do the same thing. The Watchtower Society is the lenses for the Jehovah’s Witnesses, and they’re doing the same thing. If you got rid of the Watchtower Society, they just got them to quit reading that material, and just read the Bible.

They would wind up finding the truth. Well, the one, and I guess I was having a conversation and the 144,000 came up. That number came up and that belief and Trinity came along because I want to hear what you have to say of it. Because I need to have more knowledge about it if I am to talk about it intelligently and not with the emotion and you know i’m saying i i don’t want to go off crazy but i i want to speak with intelligence and with and with uh…

and with knowledge absolutely well that you all do that right now uh… the hundred forty four thousand amazing the joe’s witnesses and the seventh and then it’s both claim to be the hundred forty four thousand but let me just share with you something in revolution seven four it says i heard the number of them that were sealed and it was sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the johov’s witnesses no he doesn’t say that excuse me it says of all the child tribes of the children of israel uh…

and then names twelve thousand from each of twelve tribes twelve times twelve thousands under forty thousand you have to be jewish to be one of the hundred forty one thousand so when they approached me and they try to uh… point out that there might be the hundred forty four thousand I say, well then you must be Jewish. And they say, no, well, I say, well, I’m sorry, then you are excluded because you can’t be. And in chapter 14 of Revelation, it tells us that the 144,000 are all men.

So if a female comes to my door and claims to be one of the 144,000, I have to say, I’m sorry. Even if you’re Jewish and you’re female, you’re excluded. Then it says that these males, the 144,000 are all male, and it says they’re all virgins. so somebody is married or is had sex they’re laminated you have to be jewish You have to be male and you have to be a virgin male. So if you just have those three things, you’ve got it made Jackie because the Bible, this 140,000 are going to get saved after the rapture.

And we find that they are going to be Jewish witnesses to the Gentiles. And as a result of their evangelism, Revelation 7, 9 says, I saw a great multitude which no man could number of all nations and kinners and tongues, which are the ones that get saved as a result of the evangelism of the hundred on the Trinity. The word Trinity doesn’t occur in the Bible. That’s what of course they harp on. But certainly the Trinity is there in the Bible wherever you look.

Let me turn to John’s gospel for just a moment and you’ll like this. If you can write this down in John 14 in verse 16 you have all three members of of the Godhead in one verse. Wake up, Jehovah’s Witnesses. It says in verse 16, and I, that’s Jesus, will pray the Father, that’s God the Father, and He shall give you another comforter, that’s the Holy Spirit. There you have all three. Verse 17 tells us that that comforter is the spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive.

Look at verse 26, again, all three Remember the Godhead John 14 26, but the comforter which is the Holy Spirit. So there you have the third member of the Godhead whom the Father will send. There you have the first member of the Godhead God the Father will send in by name. That’s Jesus. There’s the second member of the Godhead. You have all three in one verse. Look if you will the chapter 15 of John in verse 26. Again, you have all three in one verse when the comforter is come.

That’s the Holy Spirit. the third member of the Godhead, which, or whom I will send unto you, that is Jesus the second member of the Godhead, from the Father, that is the first member of the Godhead, even the Spirit of Truth or the Holy Spirit, which proceeded from the Father, that is the first member of the Godhead, he, the Holy Spirit, the third member of the Godhead, so testify of me as Jesus Christ. They just don’t read their Bible and pay attention.

They are reading the Watchtower Society and they need to dump that material and just start reading their Bible. The Watchtower Society is misleading these poor folks and they certainly need our prayers because they are lost because they reject the deity of Christ and salvation by faith in His shed blood alone. And so the Jehovah’s Witnesses will not make heaven nor will they make the new earth. They are certainly not the 144,000, but they are false witnesses and we need to pray for the don’t trust the Lord.

I’ve led many of them to Christ, but they’re not easy to lead to Christ because they have so much false teaching. And it’s just so ingrained in them that they don’t let go of the Watchtower Society and therefore it’s difficult to shake them loose. All right, we’re going to go now to, let’s see here, we have Chad. I think I certainly hung up on you before. Sorry about that, Chad. Welcome to Bibleline you’re on the air. Hey, thanks, Dr.

Haren. I’d like to start by saying that as believers, we ought to be sharing with non-believers love one another. And once somebody becomes a believer, then we ought to be searching out by sharing with people, prophecy, and other doctrines. It is not what God would have us. And then I’d like to defend the SDA Church by saying that we follow, we see Jesus and His disciples following them after the cross. And that is the keeping of the Sabbath and the other nine that even Protestants, they want to keep those nine but then throw out some of what you have to say.

Okay Chad, thank you very much. You know Jesus really didn’t observe the Sabbath after the resurrection came back on the first day of week. The second major appearance was on the eighth day, the Sunday following. The birthday of this age was on Pentecost, which was a Sunday. The early Christians in Acts 2 and throughout the book of Acts met on the first day of the week Sunday. Now what you probably see is in the book of Acts when Paul witnessing he would go to try to witness to his Jewish unsafe relatives by finding them meeting on Saturday as they still do to this very hour on the Sabbath.

And so he went looking for them on the Sabbath, but he actually himself worshipped on the first day of the week. You see in Acts chapter 20 where he came and he preached on the first day of the week when the believers came together to break bread and so on and so on. fight a first-grint in 16 that they crimped in flavors. He came once a week to worship on the first day of the week, and so it’s quite clear that right from the get-go, the Sunday was the day to commemorate the resurrection of Christ.

But Christ is of course God, and He gave us, I believe, the new day to worship, which is on Sunday, not Saturday. Now the Jewish people are the ones to whom God gave this sign of the Sabbath. He didn’t give it to any Gentiles. He read Exodus 31. God said it was a sign between himself and the nation of Israel. And it was a sign of the relationship that they had together and the covenant or the law that he gave from Mount Sinai.

So it was basically a sign that was between God and Israel. Israel was to maintain that as a uniqueness that they had to separate them from all the other nations. But I really believe the Jesus of Seventh Adventism is not the Jesus of the Bible because the Jesus of the Bible does not teach works for salvation and the Seventh Adventists clearly do with the investigative judgment and then there a whole teaching with Ellen’s you white of the scapegoat Ultimately, being the sin bear let loose to run out into the desert is a picture of Satan being ultimately the sin bear who takes our sin and carries it away, not Christ.

I think that’s blasphemous and I think it’s clearly one of the terrible doctrines of the Seventh Adventist Church, including soul sleep. Nowhere is the Bible teach that the soul sleeps. In fact, the Bible teaches that the soul is very conscious after death. If you read Luke 16, verses 19 to the end of the chapter, two men die, a rich man and a beggar named Lazarus. They’re both immediately conscious upon death and are aware of their circumstances and have memory and have conversation.

And there is no such thing as soul sleep. That’s absolutely a horrible doctrine that is invented by the Seventh Adventist and many other doctrines. There’s about eight of them that I take major exception with, except especially, good denial hell. Hell is real. It’s not a metaphor. It is a real place where Jesus said, if you die without trusting Him as Savior, you’ll be in torment day and night forever and ever. The fire will never be quenched, and the soul will never die in the eternal lake of fire.

So there is no annihilation of the wicked dead as the seven-dead Venice teacher. Chad, we love the seven-day Adventist. They need to come to know Christ the Savior. I’ve led many of them out of seven-day Adventism. You just heard the fellow down in South Florida say that he examined what I was saying and now is aware of the deception of the seven-day Adventist Church. So we’ll go at it again, call me again, and we’ll talk again sometime. But we love you and want you to come to know the truth and Ellen G.

White didn’t have the truth. We’re now going to go to David and Tampa. David, welcome to Bibleline. Good morning, Dr. Hagg. How are you? Good. Good. My question for you, and this is merely my curiosity, and I’ve been listening to you a number of years, and I can never quite pinpoint what can’t be followed under if you’re an army. media store at Calvin. I can answer that real quickly. I don’t fall into either camp. I believe there’s a fourth, another position as the Bible.

And so I don’t agree with any of the five points of Calvinism as they are generally presented. I believe we are sinners and depraved as the first point points on. I believe we’re unconditionally elected that is not on the basis of our works. The Calvin says, not even on the basis of faith. They teach that God saves you and then gives you faith after you’re saved as a consequence of being chosen and saved. Obviously, that means some are saved or chosen to be saved and some are chosen to go to hell, which I don’t agree with God, has given everybody a choice.

The one that’s really undefendable is the limited atonement of the Calvinist, which says that Christ didn’t waste any bullets. He didn’t die for anybody who would go to hell. He died only for the ones that were the elect that God chose to be saved. So he only died for the elect. That’s not true. It says in 1 John 2 2, one of my favorite verses at Christ is the propitiation, the satisfying sacrifice for our sins and not for our sins only it says but also for the sins of the whole world.

You can’t refute that verse. That’s pretty clear that price died for everybody and so on. So I believe there’s a biblical position and if you follow the teachings of men you’ll always sometimes be taken astray. I’m not the authority. I believe the Bible is. I have another question about Romans 9 then. Okay, go ahead. In terms of some he made for noble purposes and some he made for a noble and what’s the proper context of that scripture? Well what he’s talking about there is the ones who are believers are made for those noble purposes for all eternity in heaven.

I don’t know what translate you’re reading from but basically God would have mercy on those whom he would have mercy and he would have compassion on those who meet up compassion. But if you read the context, he’s saying that it would be the believers that he would have mercy on through faith in Christ, and he would not have mercy on those that would reject his Savior, but they would stand fully accountable for their sins and be cast into hell.

You read later in the chapter verses 30 through 33 that it talks about the Gentiles verse 30, which did not follow after righteousness, yet They attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. Not that God pre-selected them, but because they chose to believe He elected them. And that’s what it’s saying. Verse 31, though, Israel which followed after righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness. Why? Verse 32, therefore, because they sought it not by faith. So here’s clearly teaching in the chapter.

Those who had faith in trusted Christ were made righteous and were elected to go to heaven and had the noble purpose planned out for them before the foundation of the world. But those who would reject Christ, who did not place their faith in Christ, did not attain the righteousness and were lost and would be forever separated from God and Hell. So God before the foundations of the earth, elected to save all that would believe and he elected not to save those that did not believe.

It’s that simple. Okay, I appreciate it. Thanks for okay. Thank you so much David and it’s right there in the context of the book No doubt about it. We’re now going to go to Don and Don is in North Palm Beach and Don welcome to Bibleline your own year Well, thank you so much, and I feel very lucky. I saw your television show I came to my area a couple of days ago and you were talking about John 6, I think 37, 39.

Okay, yeah. About salvation. And maybe I didn’t catch the whole show, but as I guess have come to understand in reflection in my memory, your claim is that you think that indicates your salvation is forever and you can never lose it. is exactly right. John 637, Christ says, Him that cometh to me, I will in no wise cast out. That means for no reason. Or no circumstances would ever cast someone out who has come to Him. But then verse 39 is even better where He says, This is the Father’s will which has sent me that of all of which He have given me, I should lose none.

But raise them all and begin the last day. So He’s promising here that He’s not going to lose anybody, not even And so if one person were ever lost in all of history that came to Christ, Christ will be a liar. That’s just not going to be the fact. I mean, he promises you’ll never be lost. So I’m never going to be lost. I have eternal life. And now I can just live for Christ and enjoy the joy of my salvation and share it with others.

Well, in terms of salvation experience as an individual person, the claim is that that the mission of guilt is there and the sin. We’re all sinners and that’s why this came to vote for it. And I repent. And that means that if I’m in truth, that is accepted by God and all the sins are washed away past and present and future. That’s correct. So we’re going to keep on sinning, aren’t we? We are. And God will. What happens when we sin again?

All right. God will do. Then we don’t repent. Well, the word repent means to change your mind and that has been a terrible tragedy that it was translated into the English word repent which means to turn from sin. But the Greek word metanoia, metamines change, noi means mine. It means a simple change of mind and generally it’s a change of mind about who is Christ. Is he God in flesh, is he claims, is he the Savior or is he just a good moral teacher?

And also we have to change your mind maybe about how sin is paid for. It’s not based on our works or deeds but what Christ did for us. But in any case, after we become saved, after we trust the Lord, God becomes our Father for the first time. We become His son or daughter for the first time, and He’ll discipline us as a Father would a delinquent child. Hebrews 12. When we get into a sin issue, you or I, after we’re saved, I want to find out in very special quite often unbeknownst to us and it’s going to be a real sting.

You’re absolutely right. And I got it. Did that happen to you? Absolutely. Oh, because it happened to me. Well, I want to admit that to your audience. That’s a proof that you’re saving because God will interfere in the life of a believer. Okay. Because you’re your son. Do you have any let’s just say indications of television with all of the stuff that you see regarding healing. I’m talking about Richard Roberts. I’m talking about Benny Hinn. I’m talking about Pat Robertson.

I’m talking about you can just name anybody and they’re all indicating that It’s a very simplistic thing if you really believe to get rid of about any disease and all you have to do is Put your hand on the television screen and suddenly the cancer is gone. Yeah, I don’t believe that’s happening today I think that we’re being misled if that were really true. Why don’t they go to the nearest hospital and empty it out bed for bed? They can’t do that.

Right. You know and so I think we believe that there are healings that do occur Oh, yeah I believe that God can and does heal when it’s within this will but I think that that’s more rare. I gotta go to break here I’m sorry they cut you off Because I’d like to continue to keep looking up Jesus is coming you’ve been listening to Bibleline a presentation of Bibleline ministries of Tampa, Florida Your donation to Bibleline makes it possible for this ministry to continue in your area Bible Lines of Gresse is 4811 George Road, Tampa, Florida, 33634.

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