Bibleline Radio Show – 2007-01-17

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Welcome to Bibleline with Dr. Hank Lindstrom. Coming to you from Calvary Community Church in Tampa, Florida. Declaring God’s love through radio and television. Providing real answers to an ever searching world. Got a question? Dial toll free at 1-800-576-3771. That’s 1-800-576-3771. Now here’s the host of Bibleline, Dr. Hank Lindstrom. Well, good morning and welcome to my one great to be with you today. Thanks for Kenny and the bugcast We appreciate you and all our listeners and we’re glad that we can come to you Monday through Friday from our studios here in Tampa, Florida at the Calvary Committee Church where I am the pastor and We welcome you to come by and visit us our resource centers on every is open every day till about 4 30 in the afternoon and you’re welcome to drop by and say hi and visit our resource center and we’re going

to chance to meet you. We also of course look forward to having you come by on a worship date. This Sunday will be a great Sunday to come by. We’re having a dinner. The third Sunday we always have a wonderful lunch right after the morning service. If you come at 10.30 be my guest, bring your Bible, your appetite, your family and then join me for the service at 1030 and then the dinner that will follow and just be my guest.

You’re deputized to bring your family and your neighbors and everybody you want and we hope that we’ll have a good time this coming Sunday the 21st of January. Thank you for tuning in today. We’re going to get into the Bible for a little bit and then we’ll be of course taking our callers, you can leave an offer question or you can go on the air live with us and the phone number is 1-800-576-3771. That’s 1-800-576-3771. Jesus, when he died, went down into the heart of the earth.

In Matthew chapter 12, we read in verse 40 that as Jonah was three days and three nights in the fishes belly, social asunderman be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. And so we know that Christ went down into the heart of the earth and that’s where Paradise was. Luke 23.43 says, Christ talking to the dying thief that believed, today, I’ll be with me in Paradise. So if we connect the dots, we know that Paradise was in the heart of the earth that Christ said He would be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth at 72 hours and that he would meet obviously the dying thief there in paradise.

So paradise was in the heart of the earth and that’s where all of the saved of the Old Testament went and stayed until Christ made the full pavement for their sin. They had what we call a layaway salvation. It was laid away for them, but they couldn’t actually enjoy it until the payment for sin had been made. And so when Christ died, He went down into the heart of the earth, proclaimed liberty. And let me read a most amazing passage over in Ephesians chapter 4 in verse 8 where it says, Wherefore He saith, when He ascended up on high, He, speaking of Christ, led captivity, It talks here about a group of people that Christ led captives up on high, that is to heaven, and those were the believers of the Old Testament that had been waiting for their salvation.

Verse 9 tells us, now he that us ended, what is it but that he also descended first into the war parts of the earth? The same thing we just read in Matthew 1240, that Christ would be in the heart of the earth for 72 hours, 3 days and 3 nights. When it says in verse 10, he that the ascended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens that he might fill all things. So we know that Christ before he ascended descended first into the lore parts of the earth.

He said he’d be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. And amazing. This is when the Old Testament saints got to go up to heaven. David talked about it in the 16th Psalm. He said that he would go to Shiel. Shiel is the place where Paradise was. Shiel is the Hebrew word, S-H-E-O-L. Hades is the Greek word, H-A-D-E-S. They are equivalent. Both of them speak about the hollow place in the heart of the earth, where the saved and the lost went.

And the lost are still there. There was a place of torment. And it’s not a purgatory. They can’t work their way out of it. They’re going to wind up eventually in hell But there was also a place of a place of comfort that you can read about in Luke chapter 16 beginning in verse 19 where two men died a Rich man who was lost and was in Hades in Flaming torment and then Lazarus a beggar that Actually gathered crumbs from from the table of the rich man and had a very poor existence but yet was saved.

He went to paradise in the heart of the earth and they couldn’t pass from one place to the other. There was an impassable gulf between the two places but yet they could see and hear across this impassable gulf. Of course the saved have been taken out and are nowOHN Hebdo/?istani but the masculin in the heart of the earth. Now the Apostles Creed is wrong. It says that Christ descended into hell. That’s not true. Christ descended into Hades or Paradise, but Christ never paid for any sin after his death on the cross.

On the cross he said it is finished. Obviously he meant that our sin debt was totally paid for and our sins were paid for totally right It is finished that happened on the cross. Then Christ proclaimed liberty in the heart of the earth in paradise to those that were the Old Testament saints waiting for their salvation to be paid for. Now one of the things that bothers me, for example, I have the new living translation in my hand. neatly, really a nice binding, a nice print, nice pages, a wonderful soft feel.

I love it. But the story in Ephesians completely deletes what happened that we read about in the King James that Christ went into the heart of the earth. Let me read to you from the loot living translation which hopefully you only use as a commentary but I wouldn’t give it much credence. It says, notice it says, this is now from the loot living translation, notice it says he ascended, this means that Christ first came down to the lowly world in which we live, the same which came down as the one who ascended higher than all the heavens.

Well, notice they’re just bringing down to the surface of the earth, nothing about descending into the lower partsTextColor of the earth or going to the heart of the earth. They totally ripped the story right out of the Bible. The new living translation is really terrible. In fact, every time the word repent occurs in the new living translation, somebody just took a word processor and said, turn from your sins. The word from the Greek doesn’t mean turn from your sin.

It’s metanoia. Means a change of mind. And yet they give the false meaning for repent of turn from your sin. And they place that everywhere, repent occurs in the new living translation. It says, turn from your sin. Acts 238, Peter said, instead of repent, which means to change your mind, the Greek word is metanoia. They say in the new living translation, and Peter said, turn from your sins. Christ went into the heart of the earth and the Bible had predicted this long before it ever happened in the Old Testament.

The Christ would come and that he would leave those in the heart of the earth out of this place where the believers were waiting for their sins to be paid for. In Isaiah chapter 61 verse 1 it talks about Christ. In fact you have all three members of the Godhead all together here in one verse. It says the Spirit, that’s the Holy Spirit, of the Lord God that’s Adonai, Jehovah or Yahweh, which is the God the Father, is upon me.

The me there is Jesus as Jesus quotes this passage in Luke 4 and tells us it’s talking about himself. He goes on to say, because the Lord has anointed me to preach good tidings under the meek. He has sent me to bind the brook and hardened and to proclaim liberty to the captives and the opening of the prison to them that are bound. What prison is He talking about? And these captives? What are they? Well, this is what we read in Ephesians that Christ led a group captive.

That’s not even in the new living translation. The new living translation just takes a white out and just wipes out the whole story. Christ according to the new living translation didn’t go to the heart of the earth. Didn’t lead any group of captives anywhere. But here in Isaiah the prophet said that Christ was the proclaimed liberty to the captives and the opening of the prison to them that are bound. Jesus has the keys. He died and paid for our sins and sent on the cross it is finished.

Then he descended for 72 hours into the heart of the earth into paradise. That’s where the dying thief met him and he proclaimed liberty to those Old Testament saints saying now your sins are fully paid for. Now you can go up to heaven with me and then he opened the door to this prison and took all of those people in the heart of the earth captive up to heaven. Wow, what an amazing story. By the way, Jesus Christ was in the grave 72 hours.

Since we know He was placed in the grave at sundown, that means 72 hours later He came back out of the grave which would mean sundown. And we believe Christ rose at sundown. That’s 72 hours after He’s placed in the grave. That would be Saturday at sundown, which by the way is the beginning of Sunday night. The first day of the week began Saturday at, it still does. The Jewish people count their day from sundown to sundown and Saturday at 6 p.m.

all of a sudden the day changes from Saturday to Sunday. Sunday night begins Saturday night at 6 p.m. And so Christ rose exactly when the Sabbath ended exactly at the end of the 72 hours that he had been in the grave and in the heart of the earth and Then he rose right at the very beginning of the first day which was Saturday at 6 p.m. Which was Sunday night as it began and in the morning it was simply to the discovery of the empty tomb I’m not going to the instrument I hope you’re a believer in Christ and have trusted him as your only hope of heaven if you have Today this side of the cross it’s absent from the body present with the Lord We no longer go to the heart of the earth, but the unsaved still go there and wait in

Hades until after the thousand-year reign of Christ, when they will be brought up out of the heart of the earth, assigned a degree of punishment in hell according to their works and cast into the everlasting lake of fire, which is the final hell. Nobody, nobody, nobody is in hell yet. Everybody who dies is unsaved, goes to the place of flame and torment in the heart of the earth, and only after Satan and the Antichrist and the False Prophet are cast into hell, and then Satan’s angels.

Lastly, members of the human race in Hades are brought up, judged according to their works, assigned a degree of punishment, and cast into the lake of fire. I’m Dr. Hank Lindstrom. This is by blind. We’re going to go to the phone lines. The phone number is 1-800-100-576-377-8. 1-800-576-3771. Alright, we have Jacob, a rather Eden in Port Charlotte, calling in off air, leaving this question. And I believe I answered it yesterday, but he couldn’t hear it because he only gets the first half of the program.

So Eden in Port Charlotte asked about Jacob fighting with an angel who was God and no one can see God and survive. How did he survive? Well, the answer is that this was a preincarnate appearance of Christ. If you saw God in all of his power and all of his glory, you could not survive. But God in the second eternal person of the Godhead, Jesus Christ, he revealed himself to man. You see that in the New Testament, obviously we can survive if we see God in flesh Jesus, but he thought with Jesus really, and he won.

So in any case Jacob did fight with Jesus and Jesus won, he received a hip injury and he limped the rest of his life as a result of that injury. He also, as a second question, is the marriage in court, marriage in court or church, which has got honor? And of course, I’m not too sure what I understand this question now, but marriage has always been a legal contract between two persons. there was a writing of a marriage where the contract was entered into even in the Old Testament.

And for that to be broken, it had to be a writing of divorcement for that marriage to be broken. And that was obviously a marriage that was recognized by God when two came together to commit their lives to each other for the rest of their life. But the It was also a legal thing and so I think both are true. So hopefully that answers your question. We have Doug up in Pinsicle, California and Doug welcome to Bible Enjo on the air.

Hey, good morning brothers. This is brother Lam and Pinsicle. Yeah. You were talking about the rich man in hell and I just heard something out of Christian station in Pinsicle. and tell about it me about this written in uh… they they can’t we want to call him daddy now when you and i had talked last about the soul and someone had said it was an intellect that actually in revelation six that actually describes them as being the owner of the altar they were seen and they were wearing robes the part that bothers me is when that soul goes to hell he’s forgotten he has no name one of the things that uh…

if the deal with the soul being a lot is its identity. It’s not any longer known of God. Also, that’s how our cast in the Lake of Fire. I believe this is where you can correct me if you want. The Baptors of a Fire is. The Eber’s baptized was the Holy Ghost. And the Fire talked about in Rev. of the Julian Matthew 3 is the Baptors of a Fire unquenchable. And that’s where the unbeliever is dipped into a lake of fire and becomes a wandering star to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.

If these people would visualize your unsafe loved ones as the hell-bobed comet going around the universe for eternity in a burning mass of fire, they would be a little more diligent about leading them to Christ. Don’t you think, brother? Well, I think so, too. That’s the story, of course, that we learned there in Luke 16, beginning of verse 19, the rich man himself had five brothers and he wanted somebody to go back and evangelize them because he says less they should come to this place of torment.

So he was experiencing physical pain and he wanted Lazarus to just bring a drop of water to cool his tongue and obviously he was in the claimant torment and obviously the loss for giving their resurrection bodies at the end of the millennium and then their judge and given a degree of punishment and cast into that everlasting make a fire. Now the problem comes I think because the word Hades is sometimes translated hell which is a mistake. Hades and hell are not the same place and the lost go to Hades and then they’re brought up after Satan is cast into hell and then they’re also cast into hell after they’re assigned a degree of punishment in hell.

But you just want another question for him, brother. All right. The thing with Lazarus, now people call him a parable. My question for them is, why did that rich man think that Lazarus was going anywhere? What made him think that he could possibly leave that place of damnation and go to his brothers if it was not the Lazarus of Dan Shafter 11? You can talk about that now. Listen from the radio, OK? Okay, now that is the Lazarus in Luke 16 is not the Lazarus that John talks about that Christ rose from the dead over in John 11 These are two different men.

This is a beggar named Lazarus and obviously I probably were a number of people with the name Lazarus, but Lazarus was asked if he could go back up to the earth and witness to his brothers Of course that was not possible and of course Abraham said that they have the Bible. And obviously if they could only read the Scriptures they would have had enough information to be saved and yet they apparently rejected the Scriptures. And so you know people that are lost even though somebody came back from the dead would not necessarily believe because obviously Christ came back from the dead and yet many did not believe him.

What I find interesting is that Abraham here says they have Moses and the prophets. Now Moses wasn’t even born when Abraham was alive and yet here now Abraham who’s been dead and is in the heart of the earth and has been waiting there like all the Old Testament saints did until Christ would die on the cross and come down and proclaim liberty and open that prison that they were in up and let them out of the heart of the earth and take them up to heaven.

Notice he obviously is aware of a number of things including the fact that Moses came along later, wrote the first five books of the Bible, and the other prophets that gave us the rest of the Old Testament, the Old Testament was complete at the time that Christ came and here Abraham is fully aware of Moses and the prophets and the Old Testament at that point. It’s kind of fascinating to me that when Abraham was living they had not even been born So I hope that helps Doug and thank you for your call.

I think Doug has already hung up. We are now going to go to Ken in Clearwater and Ken will come to the Bible and you’re on the earth. Good morning and thanks so much for your ministry. Again, it’s always very encouraging. I was reading in Hebrews a couple days ago and it’s usually one of the hardest books for me maybe because of the language. It was a little bit different but it was sort of sailing along and I came to verse 3, 14 and there’s an if in there that sort of makes me struggle on some commentator’s with a planet, his work.

So, I think you can explain it out drop off in lesson. Sure, no problem. Thank you, Ken, and it’s Ken in Clearwater 4. I did a series on Hebrews and you can get the CDs and I cover all these difficult passages. But it says here we are my partakers of Christ. The word partaker there in the Greek means compete. companions and that means it has to do with fellowship. So if we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence, then it’s going to be in.

So it has to do with fellowship and our walk with the Lord, it doesn’t have to do with our salvation. And so it’s not a salvation verse. So fellowship in the Christian walk is conditional. You notice here it’s conditional upon our confidence and holding that confidence or assurance or our salvation steadfast to the end. One of the first books I read after I knew he was the same was a book by Harry Ironsides called Full Assurance. What a wonderful book that was for me and that phrase is taken out of the book of Hebrews which Hebrews talks about the power that having full assurance in your Christian life brings.

If you’re not fully assured of your salvation, then you really have nothing to witness about as a Christian. If you aren’t sure about whether you’re saved or not, why would you witness? Would you go up to somebody who’s lost and say, hey, how would you like to be as unsure of my future, of your future as I am of mine? How would you like to be as confused as I am? How would you like to be without any confidence about my eternal life?

And nobody would ever listen to you and obviously you wouldn’t even bring it up. So the Bible is saying that having confidence, knowing that you’re saved and saved forever is obviously brings power in your Christian life and obviously brings you into fellowship with the Lord. And so we are companions or have fellowship of Christ if we keep our confidence, our assurance steadfast under the end of our life. And as we walk in confidence and assurance that the Lord is not going to leave us, He’s not going to forsake us, you know, that’s a great verse right in Hebrews, Hebrews 13 5 said, the Lord will not leave you nor will He forsake you.

And so you can have great confidence therefore, and that’s what the next verse says, therefore we could be bold with men because we have confidence with God. Again, I hope that helps and it’s talking about the Christian life, not about the salvation experience. And that’s called rightly dividing the word of truth. You have to separate between the two. We have Herb in Sarasota, Florida calls in, leaves this question off here. What did Jesus mean when he said we need to do the will of the Father?

And did the writers of the Bible know the difference between great juice and wine? And of course, I’m not too sure which instance where you’re referring to that statement by Christ, but I’m sure I would assume you’re talking about the Garden of Yosemite when he was willing to submit to the world of the Father that he would take the sins of the world upon himself and die to pay for them by his death and shed blood. The writers of the Bible know that difference between grape juice and wine, I’m certain they did.

You don’t have to be too smart to figure that one out. But in reference to the Lord’s Supper, the word wine is never used. And the reason why is because wine, in order to become wine, you have to have great juice go through a fermentation process, which is a corrective process, which destroys the type. The Jews represent Christ’s blood. And Christ’s blood was incorruptible blood, the Bible tells us. And so if you use wine, you destroy the picture. And I believe it’s wrong to use wine in the Lord’s Supper because it destroys the whole picture.

It’s unleavened bread which speaks of the sinlessness of his body and its grape juice. In the Bible it always says the fresh fruit from the vine, not wine. The word wine is never used in connection with the Lord’s Supper. And so I believe that both speak about his sinlessness. the unleavened bread his body without sin and the A fresh grape juice which was a picture of the incorruptible blood of Christ. It was not wine or it would have been corrupted and destroyed the picture given to us in the Bible.

So, whenever I observe the word supper, we always use unleavened bread and we use grape juice and not wine. And yet, amazing how many churches use wine and I think they totally missed the picture of what God wanted you to do and intended for you to see in those elements representing his body and blood that they were sinless. Well, it’s time for that break. It’s hard to believe it goes so quickly and we’ll come back into a second half of Bibleline and I hope you’ll call in with your question and we’d love to talk to you and I hope you’ll call the 1-800-Number.

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We’ll have some exciting times and we want you to be a part of it. That’s Israel. Would you like to go? Give me a call on the 800 number and we’ll talk to you about it and see if we can’t get you on board with us and fly to Israel for 12 days. Really exciting. We’re gonna be by blind part two, so hold on right where you are. Don’t change your radio dial and we’ll do the second half. So stay tuned, here we go, part two of Bibleline in the second half.

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Yes Hank, I had a question, a confusion about an answer you gave, the last answer you gave in so far as it applies to 1 Corinthians 11, the 17 to 22 passage when it talks about conduct at the Lord’s Supper. In verse 21 it says, they’re doing it wrong and Paul does not praise them when they eat the Lord’s Supper. Some of you, you know, one is hungry and another is drunk. I always thought that meant that the Lord’s Supper was with wine, but it was to be the moderation of the Supper, not in that passage.

Right. I think prior to the Lord’s Supper they had a dinner just like the Lord observed the Passover with the disciples. But when you actually read all of the Gospels and talk about the Lord’s Supper, it was just the fruit of the vine that never mentions the Lord’s wine. And certainly the Caribbean believers made it a party I guess. And they brought wine to the dinner that preceded the Lord’s Supper. And I believe that’s where it came from. Is that the same word love feast from Jude 12 when it talks about the passage?

Someone else referred to about clouds without rain. And among you eating their love feast, that love feast is not the word for the Lord’s Supper. possibly might be or that or the dinner that preceded it but okay when you believe it would come together and eat and fellowship they would contaminate that and certainly we we see that okay in these chapters thank you Kelly thanks makes sense thank you very much all right Kelly in the st. Pete calling in and we now have Jay in Tampa for it and Jay welcome to my line you’re on the Hello?

Hi Jay. Hi. Yes, my name is James. Hello, can you hear me? I hear you. I’m listening. Did you listen to the radio? I can’t wait to see the question. Can you hear me now? I sure do. Don’t listen to your radio now. You’ll get confused. There’s a 20 second delay. You’ve got to listen to me on the phone. Forget your radio. Okay, I’ve walked away from my radio. Good. Okay, two or three questions. All about the same thing.

It’s about heaven. I’m listening. Go ahead. Is heaven a planet? Is heaven a planet? Well, the answer is no. Heaven is a place in the void in the north in our universe and it doesn’t describe it in any way like that. But it’s not a place where we can’t be able to live. Anyway, like that, but it does tell us that heaven is in the north and there is where the Lord sits and runs the universe. There are numerous references to this place in the north, and Job tells us about a void in the north where there are no stars.

This was recently discovered with the 200-inch telescope in Mount Palomar, California, and It’s very vast. It comprises 1% of the visible universe and is large enough, they say, to hold 2,000 Milky Way galaxies. So it’s quite large, but in the north there’s a corridor where there are no stars, and that’s where heaven itself is. And there is the New Jerusalem, which the Bible says will come down from heaven to the new earth after the thousand reign of Christ and will orbit the new earth and that’s where we live as heaven will come down to the earth.

For the idol this is in the beginning God created the heaven, heaven, is that the school and earth. Okay and of course that’s when four dimensions were created by God that apparently did not exist before and that’s space and time. 3 dimensions, length, breadth, and height, and then time. And God operates outside of all four. And we’re bound by those four dimensions, but that’s when the universe came into being. And you know it’s interesting that scientists have really spun all the way around from around the 17th century.

They said the universe had always been, and matter could not be created nor destroyed, a wall that they had in chemistry, the wall of the conservation of matter, which which was pretty true for chemical relations, but that didn’t explain everything in this universe. And of course, we know the Bible taught that the earth and the universe had a beginning, and God created the earth in the beginning. But Sidus said, well, the Bible is wrong because matter cannot be created and the universe therefore could not have been brought into existence.

But now, since Einstein, who modified that law into the law of the conservation of mass and energy, saying that matter and energy are equatable and that matter can be created out of energy. That’s what the Bible taught back in the book of Jeremiah chapter 10 that God created the universe out of His energy. And now most scientists have bought into the big bang that the universe exploded into being in an instant of time. And obviously if the universe had a beginning that means it had a beginner or it points back to God as the creator who began this universe.

And so those four dimensions began right then. And apparently before then there was no physical things in this universe and all there was no four dimensions did not exist. Heaven is physical. Yes it is. Christ said in John 14 and my father’s house are many mansions and so it says I go to prepare a place PLAC so it’s a physical place. A physical place but it’s not. That’s When he said in the beginning he created heaven and earth, why is it trying to say that earth is a planet and so the heavens are the other planets?

Well I think the reason why is because the earth is the most significant place in the universe. Of all the places there are in the universe which display the handiwork of God, this Earth is unique in that God created it with life. This is a place where he put man, and so it is unique. I don’t believe that there is life anywhere else in the universe outside of God, angelic life, and the special created beings that God made, the serums, the cherubs, and so on.

Otherwise, there is no life. Two Nobel Prize winning physicists recently wrote a book saying we’re alone in the universe. There is no other life in this universe and the stats imply that the probability of having all the uniquenesses of this planet which make life possible as we know it, really it’s impossible that there would be another one like it anywhere in the universe.

For example, you have to have water and liquid form for life to exist as we know it. And that means that narrow spectrum between 32 degrees Fahrenheit and 212 degrees Fahrenheit has to be the temperature range on that surface. And that you don’t find on any of the other planets in our solar system. And to our knowledge we haven’t found one that has that unique temperature range. Then you have to have water in the liquid form which you only can occur during that temperature range.

unique and it’s amazing how God has designed this earth so that we have the seasons and the gravity just right. If we were just a little bit bigger in diameter, you wouldn’t be able to push your body off of the face of the earth because you’d be too heavy. And if the earth were a little bit smaller in diameter, you’d flow it off into space because you wouldn’t have enough gravity to stick you to the surface. So we’d lose our atmosphere and we’d not have life as we know it.

Everything is perfect. The diamond of the earth, the rotation of the earth, and just everything that God has made about this earth is rather unique. Well, why does God associate places and things, you know, like furniture, like choirs, like angels and everything to earth? Well, that’s the big mystery. You can talk to him about it when you get to heaven. You know, he, this is his plan. I’m just reading what he says in the Bible. But obviously the earth is like a rare diamond in the universe and God created it especially for that purpose.

Okay, so there is a separation between this heaven and that’s not the phenomenon, that’s not the same thing, that’s not the same place. Absolutely not, heaven is beyond all the visible universe. According to Ephesians that we read earlier today, it says that Christ when he led the believers of the Old Testament out of the heart of the earth where they have been waiting until Christ died at the cross. He took them beyond all the visible heavens. That is probably, sometimes I’m just estimating, four trillion light-years away.

And of course, because God is not bound by time, he made that trip instantaneously, stepping out of these four dimensions and taking them through into other dimensions to get there. If he had to travel by the limitations that we have, Christ would still be on his way to heaven with those captives. And it’s only been 2,000 years, which is a very small amount of four trillion light years that it would take to get to heaven itself. So it’s a long distance.

And you have to be a god who is outside of those dimensions to be able to accomplish the things that the Bible said would happen. That’s terrible. But heaven is a place. I’m trying to get a definition of heaven. Well, you ought to get my paper on that. Why don’t you go to my website and look under the articles that I’ve written and look up heaven. And I have a whole article of several pages that describes heaven as the Bible describes it.

And check that out. And if not, if you don’t have any of that access, call my operators after the program and we’ll send it out to you free charge. Would you do that? Sure. So call back right after the program and get our operators to send you that sheet out on heaven. Thank you, Jay. We appreciate your questions and sounds like you’re starting to dig in to your Bible. That’s great. Off the year we have Greg in Tampa, Florida and he says, I know you believe the Jewish Third Temple will be built during the tribulation period after the Rapture.

elaborate on the scripture verses you would use to support this belief. Well obviously if you go to Daniel 9 it talks about three temples. It talks about the temple that had been destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar how that another temple would be built as it says in Daniel 9.25 a commandment would be given to restored, rebuilt Jerusalem after Nebuchadnezzar had destroyed it. That temple was existent when Christ died, then it describes how that Jerusalem and the temple would be destroyed in Daniel 926 when Christ came the first time to pay for our sins, and then it describes in verse 27 of Daniel 9 a third temple where sacrifices will be resumed again.

The Antichrist will cause the sacrifices to cease in the middle of the tribulation period three and a half years in. The Book of Hagai in chapter two describes three temples. We’ve only had two so far. The first temple built by Solomon, the second one built by those who returned after the Babylonian captivity. Now the third one will come up after the rapture during the tribulation period. but if you turn to the book of Haggai in your Old Testament, it describes three temples, a former temple, the one that was built by Solomon, a temple that would be the second temple, that was the one that it describes being built that was highly inferior to the first temple, and then a third temple that would be greater than the first two.

It would be the greatest of all, which is the millennial temple, which will be the one built during the tribulation period and will then also be refurbished by Christ and made to be the greatest of all. So if you turn the Haggai chapter 2, it tells us here as he tells the people about how they needed to remember how splendorous the first temple was. It says, who is left among you that saw this house in her first glory? was talking about those that might be still living who had seen the temple of Solomon that had been destroyed.

Now they had rebuilt a second temple and he says, how do you see it now? Is it not in your eyes in comparison as of nothing? In other words, this is a pretty inferior rebuilding of the temple. It didn’t look anything like the first temple, but then He talks about Christ coming back and then it says the glory of this latter house, which is the third temple, will be greater than all the previous two. So there’s a lot of references and I can go on and on, but there’s many references to the third temple.

Thank you, Greg. This gave you a little bit, but if you just read those two chapters, you’d see in the Old Testament, long, long ago it talks about three temples. The third one hasn’t existed yet. Malachi also does the same thing. We’re now going to go to Jim and Tampa. He leaves an off-air question and Jim says, does the Antichrist have a mom and a dad? And are they Satanists? Well, he probably does have a mom and a dad.

But as far as being Satanists, I don’t think so. I think the Antichrist probably will not know he’s the Antichrist until Satan actually comes and dwells him. that he will not be a believer, but I think he probably will appear to be Christian and will fool the Christians as he comes to power. They’re going to think he’s wonderful, but he will turn out to be Antichrist as soon as he gains power. Thank you, Jim, from Tampa, Florida, calling in without an offer of question.

The phone number here at Bible is 1-800-576-3771. 1-800-576-3771. Bill in Petersburg, Virginia calls in and leaves this offer a question, how were people saved in the Old Testament? The answer is by faith in Christ. Abraham believed in Christ and was saved. Let me give you a great verse, Bill. In Galatians 3, it says the scripture referring to the Old Testament, foreseeing that God would justify the nations through faith preached before the gospel of Abraham. So Abraham heard the gospel, believed the gospel, and was saved the same way you and I are.

Acts 10, 43, Peter tells us to Jesus, of course the Hebrew is Yeshua, which means God who would save you, it’s the Messiah, that to Jesus give all the prophets witness that his all the Old Testament writers spoke about Jesus and it says that through his name, whosoever believeth in him shall receive the remission of sins. So Peter in one verse, Acts 10, 43, tells us that everybody in the Old Testament was to be saved by trusting in Yeshua, or the English form of that is Jesus.

Yeshua occurs in the Old Testament over 130 times. Jesus is clearly there and they believed on Jesus and that’s how they were saved. We’re going to go to Charlie and he’s in Largo, Florida. Charlie, welcome to Bibleline you’re on the air. Charlie? Hello Charlie. Apparently I don’t have Charlie, but we’ll try again, maybe he’ll call right back and we’ll catch him.

We have Walter in Tampa, Florida calling in and leaves an offer question. He says, what about John 10 18? Well, I’m going to turn there and we’ll find out what John 10 18 says. In John 10 18 it says, no man take it my life from me, but I live down of myself. I have power to live down. I have the power to take it again. So it’s talking here about Christ and it’s talking about that he uniquely had the power to terminate his life and then bring it back to life.

You and I can’t do that, but he could choose the time of his death and how he would die. He did exactly that. Then he came back again from the dead as he said that he would. He had told in advance how he would be betrayed, how he’d be crucified, how he’d be buried, He had come back again from the dead and he fulfilled all of that literally. He told that from the very beginning of his ministry. He go right to John’s Gospel chapter 2 and there he tells about how that if he destroyed this temple in three days I’ll raise it back up and they thought he was talking about the temple in Jerusalem and he said he was talking about the temple of his body.

So right from the get-go he talks about his death barrel and resurrection and fulfilled it to the letter. have now Charlie again and Charlie welcome the Bible and you are on the air. Hello. Hi Charlie. Are you this morning? Good. I have a quick question. Um, in Genesis Abraham, Sarah gave. That’s correct. And give to you as a wife. But when are two people married? I mean, you have to go to the, you know, in those days, they didn’t have a, how did the hour they married?

How did, how did, how did one today? Well, they did write up a written contract from the earliest days in the, in the, the Old Testament you can read about how that they would do that. But again, Abraham was wrong in doing that. Sarah was wrong. And obviously in some of the other cultures, they did those kind of things. But basically she wanted him to bear that child over her lap so that it could be, you considered her child and be heir, but if God said that’s not going to happen, he is not heir.

And then actually Abraham and Sarah would have a child, that would be the heir and be the one through whom the Messiah would come. But marriage takes place when two people, actually if you read Genesis 2, you read about the first marriage is when two people come together and they commit to be companions for the rest of their life. And that’s what Abraham and other Adam and Eve did. And we find that marriage is where you leave father and mothers, it says in Genesis 2.

So you leave them to form a new family. And now you’re independent of mom and dad. And you form a new family and you commit to live together as husband and wife the rest of your life. I have to go get a marriage license, do all that before you marry or do we just have to commit ourselves to the Lord’s first? Well, is that a legal marriage? To be legal in the eyes of the law, you have to get a marriage license.

And obviously, yeah, well, of course. And you know, unless you’re willing to do that, how can the partner that you’re marrying know that you are really making a real commitment? because even in the olden times men were sinful and they didn’t hold their agreements, but if you had a legal contract, even Mary and Joseph, it was a legal contract. They were espoused as husband and wife and they followed the agreement of the contract where in those Jewish customs they didn’t really come together and have sex and consummate it for a whole year because during that year the husband was to provide a home for the the wives that gave him time to build it and to concentrate on getting things ready for that new family to begin.

But they were married and it would require a divorce for them to be separated, even though they hadn’t even come together yet sexually. And you read that in the first Matthew chapter 1 when he discovered that Mary was pregnant. He wanted to have her put her away, which means divorce. he was going to divorce her because he didn’t want to have a publicly stoned death, which could have been an event that took place because he obviously was considering that there was Thank you for those questions.

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