Bibleline Radio Show – 2008-05-05

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Welcome to Bibleline with Dr. Hank Lindstrom. Coming to you from Calvary Community Church in Tampa, Florida declaring God’s love through radio and television, providing real answers to an ever searching world. Got a question? Dial toll free at 1-800-576-3771. That’s 1-800-576-3771. Now here’s the host of Bibleline, Dr. Hank Lindstrom. Well good morning and welcome to Bibleline. Great to be with you today. Thanks for tuning into the broadcast. I’m Dr. Englund Striman. We’re coming to you live today from Tampa, Florida from our studios right here at the Calvary Community Church where I’m the pastor and we look forward to being with you every day, Monday through Friday.

And we hope that you’ll listen all week long. By the way, we’re streaming right now to the internet. And if you would only go to our website by the line Ministries.org, you can click on the Spinning Globe and catch our radio program live right now, any place on the planet earth, and you can go back and listen as often as you want. For about two years we keep these programs there for you to download, to listen to, to we have the podcast thing so you can have it automatically sent to your computer.

is all free and it’s right there on our website by the line ministries.org. By the way we have our worship services also there and yesterday we had people from all over tuned into our website for the worship service live but if you go there you can catch that worship service anytime you like day or night 24-7. So just click on the camera on the home page and you’ll get the worship service, click on the TV set, you’ll get our TV programs, click on the spinning globe and you’ll get our radio programs.

I hope you’ll do that. Plus our resource center is there. If you click on the online bookstore you’ll have also the bookstore and you’ll be able to look at all the products we have and be able to order directly from off of the website. I hope you’ll take advantage of all that. We’re excited about having completed first and second Peter, second Peter now, ten hours of teaching, first Peter, ten hours of teaching. You can order those CD series or you can order them on DVD and a lot of folks are.

This is a wonderful series and especially in the light of the times in which we’re living, Peter warns us about the last days and what to look out for. as we see so much deception today, so much unbiblical teaching, new age teachings and other things creeping into the church. The only way to be protected is to get into the Word. Peter tells us in 2 Peter 3 verse 2 that we are to be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the prophets.

That’s the Old Testament and of us the apostles. That’s the New Testament. So we’re to be mindful of the Old and New Testament scriptures and when we are we will not be fooled by the false teachers That come along and boy there’s a lot of them today They’re everywhere. I was raised in church for 18 years and I never knew how to go to heaven And I find out that I’m not alone boy So many folks have been raised in church all our life It have never discovered the wonderful gospel and how to become saved and I talk to people like this all the time that have been raised in church, gone through all the processes of the church, and yet do not know that eternal life is a gift.

It’s offered free to all those that would put their trust in Jesus Christ as their personal Savior. And I hope you’ll listen carefully today if you’re not sure about where you’d spend eternity that you’d listen very carefully, because you can know and be assured of going to heaven before this program is over, by simply trusting Jesus Christ as your only means of going to heaven. We invite you to come by and visit us anytime you’re in the area. If you live in the area, come on by or if you live out of the state but you’re coming in before to sometime, come by and say hello.

We have people that come here all the time from all over and we invite you to visit us as well. We think we have visitors from Africa just a week ago from Ghana, Africa, and we’re excited about getting people or meeting people that come by. to see us wherever they might be from. And we’d love to meet you. That would be great. By the way, the third Sunday of the month is coming up and that will be our dinner Sunday.

You’re welcome to come and sit in the 1030 service. Be our guest and stay for the lunch that will follow. A lot of great food and great fellowship. And it’d be a great day to come and visit with us so you can enjoy the sit down meal and enjoy the fellowship with us here on that third Sunday. We’ll also have a Baptist baptism on that afternoon at three, and if you’ve not been water baptized since you’ve been saved, I encourage you to be baptized.

We’d be delighted and honored to do that baptism. If you’d like to use us, you can contact us and we’ll put you on the list. We’ll get you baptized on the 18th of May. If you think you can wait until February next year, we’ll go to Israel and we’ll baptize you in the Jordan River. We baptized twelve on this past trip in the Jordan and we’ll be happy to baptize you in the Jordan River if you want to wait until then.

If you’re interested in that trip by the way, give us a call and leave us your name and phone number and we’ll, information will mail you a brochure and get you going in your plans. If the world hasn’t come back first, we’ll plan to go this coming year to Israel and also with an extension to Egypt and Jordan and also will be staying at the beautiful resort city of Elot on the Red Sea. What a gorgeous spot that is.

You’ll enjoy yourself. You’ll have a great time. I hope you’ll go with me on trip number 16 for me to the Middle East and to Israel and to Egypt and Jordan. We want you to give us a call and let us know. Also we want you to know that next Sunday coming up is Mother’s Day and we’re going to be celebrating moms and we’re going to have a breakfast in the morning at 9 and all moms go free. So if you’d like to come for our Mother’s Day breakfast that’s also something you can do.

We’re having a summer camp for teens for our middle school and high school and if you have a teen and you’d like to send them they’ll have a great time. the week of June 23 through 28 and I guarantee you it’ll get a lot of good Bible teaching as well as have a great time on a beautiful lake, beautiful campgrounds right down in the very heart of Florida just outside of Avon Park, Florida which is a beautiful part of the state.

We invite you to call us if you want information for any youth you have or your youth group But to join us we’ll have a great time of Bible teaching and finding games. And I believe your child will be changed by that week of being under the sound of God’s word. Well, we’re getting into the Bible for a few minutes. And then we’re going to, of course, take our callers. And we have people already calling in and waiting on the line.

You can call also. The phone number is 1-800-576-3771. You know the Bible tells us about the earth being created and we believe created perfectly and inhabited and the Bible then tells about a judgment that occurred that destroyed all life on the planet earth and that judgment is recorded for us in Genesis 1-2 where the earth became without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep and that we believe It was the result of a judgment that the original earth was perfect, inhabited, plants, animals, dinosaurs, and all of God’s angels lived on this earth, and Lucifer ruled over them.

We know that apparently that went on for millions and millions and millions and millions of years, and then Satan, who is called Lucifer at that point, decided that he wanted to become God and overthrow God. Look at so interesting, in Isaiah 14, if you have your Bible, turn there and you’ll find that all the angels lived on the earth. Lucifer lived on the earth. Lucifer was given the title of the God of this world. Notice God knew his thoughts, so this rebellion didn’t get too far.

It says in verse 13 about Lucifer, for thou has said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven.” Well obviously, Lucifer was not in heaven if he was going to ascend there. Secondly, he says, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God. Apparently he’s on the earth here below the stars, the visible universe that we can see with our naked eye. And then thirdly it says here in Isaiah 14 and verse 13, I will also sit upon the mount of the congregation in the sides of the north.

There’s an interesting revelation to us, isn’t it? Because it really hints here that heaven is in the north in our universe. Did you know that the book of Job written 3500 years ago tells us about a void in the north in our universe where there are no stars? Is this the place where heaven is? Let me quote that verse for you. Job chapter 26 verse 7. says that God stretches out the north over the empty place. Now nobody knew anything about this until rather recently.

In fact, it was the 200-inch telescope in Mount Palmar, California, where they first discovered this void in the north and the universe where there are no stars. And they say that it is so large that it could contain 2,000 Milky Way’s, no Hershey ours. It’s easy. But you know, the Milky Way galaxy is a hundred thousand light years across. That means like traveling at the speed of 186,000 miles per second. We take 100,000 years to get from one end of the Milky Way galaxy to the other.

And therefore, this is a pretty big expanse, isn’t it? It’s quite large. And this This void in the north is large enough to hold 2,000 Milky Way Galaxies. Pretty incredible. The Milky Way contains so many stars. I climbed Mount Sinai over there in the Middle East, and it’s 8,000 feet high. We began our ascent about two in the morning, and we got on camels about the 5,000 foot level. And there we rode up to the top, not to the entire top, but to about the 7,000 foot level.

And there was a parking lot for camels, and I called it Camelot. And we left our camel there, and hopefully we’d find that camel when we came back down. But the last thousand feet you have to walk or climb on your own. Wow, with the rare fine air, that was quite an ordeal. It got up there and it was pitch black. And I had the most amazing experience I’ve ever had. I saw as I looked up above at the Milky Way.

It looked like somebody had taken a great big container of milk and just threw it straight up at the sky. I mean, we’re talking about white, white, white, just so many stars and it looked like milk. And I had never experienced that before in my life. Wow, no wonder they called it the Milky Way. But then, because we’re at 8,000 feet high, the highest mountain peak around, I could look around and see stars in every direction, just as many, in every direction I looked.

But what was so interesting, normally when you look up at the sky, you’re looking over houses or over the tree line or over other obstacles, but for the first time in my life I could actually look down below the horizon and see stars be low the horizon, just as many as I was seeing up above my head. I had chill bumps all over the numb arms and legs. I just couldn’t get over it. I said, I feel like I’m in a space capsule.

I feel like I’m observing the universe from outer space because I could see stars in every direction and even down below my feet, down below the level of the horizon. That was a phenomenal thing and I never seen so many stars in my life. Well we waited for the sun to come up and what a beautiful thing it was to see the sun come up over the mountains there of the wilderness and this desert wilderness where Moses was with the children of Israel.

And we of course did find our camels and get back down. But you know, there is one place, according to the Bible, where there are no stars. Job 26 7 says, he stretches out the north over the empty place and hang at the earth upon nothing. It appears that heaven is in the north. And here this verse, Satan says that he wanted to go to the north in our universe to actually sit upon the mountain of the congregation in the sides of the north, implying this corridor with sides where there are no stars.

In the North of the universe. Look at verse 14 now by Isaiah chapter 14 and verse 14. It says, I will ascend above the heights of the clouds. Apparently Lucifer was on the surface of the earth beneath the clouds. As he tells us he’s going to ascend above the height of the clouds. So he’s below the clouds, below the planetary heavens that we can be with our eyes. He’s got his sights on heaven itself and he is looking to sit in the north in this place where God himself rules the energy of the earth.

universe. And we find lastly, he says, in verse 14, I’ll be like the most high. He wanted to be God. And of course, God knew these things. He cast Satan and the angels that followed him back down to the earth. And he also judged the earth. And the earth became without form and void. And darkness is upon the face of the deep. I believe the fossil remains that that we have in the earth today are the results of that judgment upon the earth.

We have petroleum oil that is the fossilized remains of animal life and coal that fossilize remains of plant life. All these are evidences of a judgment that came upon this earth and these things are trapped beneath the earth and are used today as our fossil fuels to fuel our modern world today. When you drive your car you’re using fossilized animal remains from, I believe, the original creation. Isn’t that amazing? Well, the Bible is quite clear that Satan is still the God of this world and it tells us a lot of different things that we wouldn’t otherwise know.

Why was Satan here? Why was he motivated to get Adam and Eve to fall? The The reason why is he was replaced by Adam and Eve, and so he wanted to cause Adam and Eve to fall. So he’s in the garden and he immediately tries to become Adam and Eve to get them to sin and come under God’s curse. Fascinating stuff, but we’re going to go to the phone lines. I’m Dr. Englund from This is the Bible. I have a number of CDs you can order where we cover the creation story of the Book of and show them any passages that talk about an original creation and then seven days of a re-creative week.

Well, we’re going to go first to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and we have Tony there from Pittsburgh and Tony, welcome to Bibleline you are on the air. Okay, how you going, huh? Good, Tony. I was like I had called him before and that’s the up, but I was telling him I said, I was Jesus only, they believe you got to go in the water to be saved and I said, well that would be by work. And I did, and the church like I attend, and I said, I’m kind of hanging in with them, but they always, they say to them, they say, you have salvation, but you have to keep it.

And I said, how can a man keep it? And they think songs like, if you live right, you make it. And I went to some scriptures. I went to Romans 9, 30, and 31. And I said to myself, I said, I don’t know. I said, let me call Hank and say, it’s no way they can answer our statement if they believe they can work. But like people like you, I’ll talk. Listen to you. The parents, they don’t listen to guys like they did.

there you go straight to hell not there. So I got to be Jesus alone right? Absolutely Jesus alone for salvation that our works have nothing to do with it. In fact they’re filthy rags according to Isaiah 64 6 and the Bible says that there is no man who can redeem himself. That’s why we needed a Savior who would redeem us and Christ is the one who paid the purchase price and the Bible tells us that once we become saved Nothing can undo what God has done.

Romans 8, 38, and 39 are a couple of favorites of mine. Paul says, I’m persuaded. That means they’re to convince that neither death or life or angels or principalities or things present or things to come nor height or death, nor any other creation. She’ll be able to separate me from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus. There’s nothing that can undo the salvation that you receive at the moment you believe it’s forever. And Jesus says in Hebrews 13, 5, I’ll never leave you.

that means never so if you ever did go to hell christ would have to go to hell with you because he said he’d never leave it i believe that one hand They bring a good life and everything else and I did life better than me but I always say they get up and give great testimony. The only testimony I can give them say I mean, I’m going by the grace and mercy and it looks like they get mad. I know well you just have to keep chipping away and say that if you’re trying to be saved by your works you will not be saved.

And unfortunately a lot of people are going to be in that category because the crisis is not their savior. If they’re saving themselves by their works and by their being baptized and all those other things that they do. Tony I’ll be praying for you. God bless you. Thank you. You hang in there. We also have another caller now from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. We have Vivian and Vivian, welcome to Bibleline your on the air. Oh, I had to call you. You said a couple times you felt the Antichrist would be an American and I wanted to know why you felt that way and I have another question.

Well, I believe the United States is the key country here in the last days and I believe it’s mentioned in Daniel 7 verse 8 along with many universes but this is a clear one. and it talks about ten nations that were part of ancient Europe that would come together in the last days. I think we’ve seen that in the European common market. Then it talks about another nation. That means an 11th one. And it is called the Little Horn, which means it’s younger than, and yet it is described there as being stronger than the ten nations that birth this 11th nation.

We’re the only nation in the world that has been birthed by Europe that’s younger than. stronger than Europe and we are I believe the 11th nation. Now the leader of that 11th nation is also called a little horn and that is a title for the Antichrist. And so I believe he comes right out of this country and I think most people are looking in all the wrong places for the Antichrist and they’re not going to ever even suspect who he is because they’re looking in the wrong place.

He’s coming right out of this country. But doesn’t it say in scripture that the Antichrist will come from the revived Roman Empire? Well, guess what? The revived Roman Empire has spawned an 11th baby country, the U.S. of AIDS. That’s what Daniel 7-8 is talking about. We are the extension of the Roman Empire. We’re Roman here in government and everything else. are where the Congress meets is built on purpose in the shape of the pantheon, which is in Rome. It’s Roman in shape.

That dome on the Capitol is an absolute perfect replica of the shape of the pantheon in Rome. Well, you answered all my questions. Thank you very much. You’re very welcome and God bless you. And we’re on every day in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania on Bibleline and we’re excited about getting calls calling in from there. We’re on now the air with Denise in Seminole Florida. Denise welcome to Bible and you’re on the air. Oh hi Dr. Lindstrom. I would like to know your opinion on yes Lewis I’m hearing a lot about him but I don’t feel kind of uneasy about it.

No. I personally don’t believe CS Lewis was a Christian he He believed in evolution. He didn’t believe the Bible was the inspired word of God. He believed you could lose your salvation. He believed in works for salvation. We have a book here in our resource center that talks about C.S. Lewis, a Christian or pagan. It seems like if you read his writings, he was pagan. He obviously believed in a works for salvation philosophy. So I don’t believe C.S. Lewis was saved.

So I think if you read this book you’ll be shocked at the quotes from C.S. Lewis about his belief system. He obviously was far from being a biblical scholar or a believer in the infallible, in errant word of God. What a say goodbye to Miami. I am here listening to you every day down there on 1080W MCU and we are excited about being down on the air in Miami and we thank God for all of you listening down there.

I know you sign off before our other stations do so I wanted to just acknowledge that you are there and thank you for tuning in today to Bible on. Alright we are going to go back to our other callers now. We have Gino in Tampa, Florida and Gino welcome to Bibleline your on the air. Yes, I just want to say that I’ve been wanting and I came up to visit your service yesterday morning. I remember being honest and we had a nice time.

I went to actually get one of those pamphlets. I was telling her how Jesus was said that he would arrive in three days or 72 hours. She looked it up and said that he would arrive within three days or after three days. I think the only way you can resolve that is it has to happen exactly when three days was ending and when the fourth day was beginning. So it means exactly 72 hours. There’s no wiggle room and that’s the only way you can resolve that.

By the way, on the NIV it’s 44 verses that are dropped in their entirety. There are also hundreds of other deletions. We have another. Another track here that we can send you as well, that lists two-minute critical omissions, not entire versus, but omissions with the NIV. It’s really one of the worst translations out there. The attempt on the part of the translators of the NIV to do away with hell is really horrific. R. Laird Harris, who was the head of the committee, said that hell is nothing more than the dust of the ground, the dust of the grave, and that’s the appropriate meaning.

Wow. We’re out of time, we’re going to have to come back and do a second half hour. So I hope you’ll keep your radio tuned right where it is and we’ll come right back and do Bibleline in the second half hour. Again, if you haven’t given the Bibleline, you can certainly help us. We certainly are dependent upon you, the Lister. And if you could call and give a gift by credit card, it would be greatly appreciated or mainly gifted in the Bible and to keep us going in your area.

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And that’s exactly what the Bible describes that would happen as we approach the Lord’s return. If you read 2 Timothy chapter 3, it seems like the headlines are all there. And we’re seeing all of that. And it says this now also that in the last days perilous times shall come. And boy, aren’t we seeing that times of real trouble and crime and drugs and all these things are predicted and we’re seeing it happen before our AIs. We thank all of you who listen for your prayers and for your support.

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We’re coming to you live from Tampa, Florida from our studios right here at the Calvary Community Church and we want you to know that you’re welcome to come by and visit our studios and our Resource Center here in Tampa, Florida. And we’re right next to the airport, so it makes it easy for you to find us from wherever you might be coming. And if you want to come by and visit, you might want to come by during the week before 4.30 in the afternoon Eastern time.

Our resource center is open, and we’ll give you the red carpet treatment. Also, you can come by on a worship day, a Wednesday, or a Sunday. And the third Sunday is coming up, where we’ll have a dinner as we do every third Sunday of the month. And you can save for the 10-30 service, and stay for the dinner. And you’re invited to bring your family, your bad boy, your appetite, and enjoy the good time together. Also, on the 11th, which is this coming Sunday, we’re going to have a Mother’s Day celebration in our morning worship service in honor of all moms.

And we have a wonderful breakfast plan, and all moms go free. Everybody else pays, but the moms go free if you want to bring mom or grandma or great-grandmom. bring all the family you’re welcome to come to a wonderful breakfast on the 11th of May at nine o’clock and we’ll celebrate the moms and make them hopefully feel good and appreciate them for all that they do and what they mean to each and every one of us. We’re talking about Israel for next year and if you’d like to go just give us your name and address and we’ll mail you a brochure as soon as we get them and we’re talking about If the word hadn’t come back yet, we’ll try to go in next February to Israel.

We also want you to know that our second Peter class is finished, but also first Peter. So we have ten hours of teaching on first Peter’s, ten hours of teaching on second Peter, that’s available. Now, on CD and DVD, and I think you’ll enjoy this wonderful series, it was really great, Peter is warning us in the last days what to be prepared for in the way of what we would face and how to counter that. It’s a great book.

Satan doesn’t want you to know what Peter had to say. And a lot of people never even read first and second. Peter, maybe because it’s at the very end of the Bible and they never get that far. They start off in Genesis and read so and so and so and get bored and close the Bible. I remember doing that before I ever got saved as a child, but boy the Bible is exciting as you get toward the end. And these books are written just before the book of Revelation and is really timely material for you and me.

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We’re now going to go to the land floor and we have Loretta on the line and Loretta, welcome to Bibleline your on the air. Oh, hi. How are you this morning? Good. I listened to your program frequently and I enjoyed listening to it. I just wanted to ask something. I’ve been talking to a family member of Catholics and I was Catholic at one time but then I started into the Baptist Church and I was just wondering now, this is the discussion we’ve been having.

About Peter, they believe that he was the first pope. that from, you know, I know that he just decided an apostle. And I’m just wondering, where did they get all these ideas? Well, what they’ve done is they’ve taken the passage where Jesus announces that he’s going to turn to the Gentiles and he mentions for the first time the church which would begin a Pentecost and be the age where God would include Gentiles now in the same body with Jews.

Christ makes an announcement to Peter and he says, I want Peter and upon this rock I’ll build my church. But if you read it carefully, especially the original language is Greek, it’s really saying that Christ himself is the rock and that Peter is a little rock or a little pebble upon which would build on top of the foundation of Jesus himself being the rock. You see that everywhere else. When you read Peter himself, and this This is the important thing is to let Peter speak for himself.

If you read Acts 4 and verse 11, Peter says, Jesus is the rock. He’s the stone. And then Peter says in Acts 4, 12, neither is there salvation than any other, for there’s none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved. Then if you look over to 1 Peter 2, let Peter speak for himself again. He says that all of us as believers are living stones and were built upon the foundation of the chief cornerstone which is Jesus himself.

So Peter never claims to be the rock. He never misunderstood that passage. But the Catholic Church has. But if you let Peter speak for himself, you’ll find salvation is by grace. It’s by simple faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. One of my favorite verses is Acts 1511 where Peter stands up at the first council of the early church and says, we believe that through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved even as they. So here he tells us we’re saved by grace and we’re not saved by works.

In Acts 10, 43 Peter says to Jesus, give all the prophets witness that through his name whosoever believeth in him should receive the remission of your sins. So the Bible is quite clear if you let Peter speak to himself. We have a book here called Understanding Roman Catholicism in our Resource Center. is excellent. It takes the Roman Catholic Catechism, it examines 37 critical doctrines, it quotes from the Catechism and then it quotes from the Bible on those same doctrines and you’ll just be absolutely shocked at what the Catechism teaches as versus what the Bible teaches and they’re not the same at all.

So you have to get your ammunition together and just point out what the Bible says and how the most doctrines that the The Catholic Church teaches are far away from what the Bible teaches. I know that. That’s why I’m not in the Catholic Church today. I watch things sometimes, and it’s just amazing, you know, but they believe. And let me even like that. I think if you did a little study and go through and prepare yourself with all the quotes from Peter, and then say well if you believe I don’t the first pope if you did a dialogue with them will say then if you believe Peter’s the first pope then you need to pay attention to what he said and if they listen to what Peter said then they’re gonna find out that what they’re being taught today is not the same thing.

Yeah well my aunt is 82 years old and I don’t know whether she’s you know totally capable of you know receiving things as I speak to her it’s just like I don’t know should I think It’s over all up or something. Well, just pray and then… I know Satan is a prophet of being, and he’s deluded these people. Anyway. Don’t give up. Just take a simple verse like John 3, 16, and just stay right there and just tell her that God so loved her that he gave Jesus to die to pay for her sins, that if she would believe or trust in him, she would not perish but have everlasting life.

Yeah, I have just would receive that wonderful verse She tries to tell me they read the Bible every Sunday when they get into church. She doesn’t know anything about the Bible. One day she said to me something about Barabbas, you know, being on the cross. I said, no, Barabbas was the one who put that screen in the place of Jesus. Don’t give up. I hope that the Lord will bless your prayers and efforts to reach your family. Thank you.

I appreciate it. Loretta in the land, Florida. We’re now going to go to Lou in Tampa, Florida. Lou, welcome to Bibleline you’re on the earth. Dr. Actus is a lawyer. How are you? Good. I’ve got a question for you. And then I’ll hang up. A friend of mine was studying the King James Bible and he said that he believed that Jesus and John the Baptist were cousins because Mary and Martha were from different tribes. If you could go ahead and expand I appreciate it.

All right. Well, if you note what the Bible says in Luke, it does say that they are related. So you can’t argue with that. Let me just turn over to the passage in Luke’s Gospel where Mary goes to visit Elizabeth and she, they’re both pregnant. It says here in verse 39 of Luke chapter 1. Mary arose in those days and went into the hill country with haste into a city of Judah and entered into the house of Zacharias and saluted Elizabeth.

In a kingdom pass, when Elizabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. And here they were together and obviously both were excited about the fact that Elizabeth was carrying of course John the Baptist and Mary was carrying the Savior of the Lord Jesus Christ. But if you read verse 36 of chapter 1 it says, Behold, thy cousin Elizabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age.

Now that is actually directly from the angel Gabriel, telling Mary that her cousin Elizabeth had conceived and so if the angel Gabriel says that Elizabeth is a cousin I think I would say that he is probably right. What do you think? And of course Lewis off the air now, but Luke 136, my cousin Elizabeth, the angel Gabriel told Mary that. So obviously he knew the physical relationship there. You have Nila and she’s in Lake Mary for her and Nila, welcome to Bibleline your own here.

Good morning, Dr. Lindstrom. Yes. Yes, I’m calling with a question about how the fossil sick. In our church yesterday, we were asked to recite the post office. And when I came to the par where I said that he descended into hell, I did not say the phrase because I have heard from you that this has been going to hell. And I really respect by now what you teach us through the station. I’ve listened to you for about two years.

Good for you, isn’t it? So I would like to hear from you about his mother, his understanding to hell. And where did he go? I know that you said that he went to the center of the earth or the heart of the earth where I don’t have any verses to confirm that. I hope you have your pencil ready and I’ll give it to you. I’m going to hang up and listen so that I can write the verses. Good. Thank you very much and have a nice day.

Same thing to you, Nila. Bye-bye. Nila, Satan would love to have you believe Christ would help. a lot of people that teach that, but that is not true. And the Apostles Creed is wrong, saying he descended into hell. Write down Matthew 1240. Jesus said, as Jonah was three days and three nights in the Fishes Valley, social as son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth, right in the center of the earth. That’s Matthew 1240.

Then in Luke 23, 43, Jesus told the dying thief on the cross that believed today, now shall be with me in paradise. So we know therefore, Paradise was in the heart of the earth and that’s where Jesus went. And we know also that when Christ ascended from in the heart of the earth, He led a group of people captive that were all of the Old Testament saints that have been waiting there in paradise for their sins to be paid for.

In Ephesians chapter 4, Ephesians chapter 4 verses 8 through 10. It says that Christ descended first into the lower parts of the earth. And then it says when He ascended He led a group captive up to heaven itself. And so we know that Jesus went down into the heart of the earth and there the dying thief was there and all of the believers in the Old Testament were there. And on the third day Christ emptied the place out and led these people up to heaven itself.

Ephesians 4, 8-10. So the three verses I just gave you are Matthew 12, 40, Luke 23, 43, and Ephesians 4, 8-10. I hope you got all of those and that should help you a great deal. Christ never went to hell. And what is so amazing is that hell is empty. There’s nobody in hell yet. It was created for Satan and his angels. Matthew 2541, Christ says to the lost that they are to be cast into the lake of fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

But the devil and his angels are first in and they’re not cast in until after Christ is ruled and reigned on this earth for a thousand years. Thank you, Nila. Nice talking to you today and you have a great day. We’re now going to go to Jerry in Plant City and Jerry, welcome to Bibleline you’re on the earth. Yes, Governor, the revival that’s going on over there in Lakeland, Florida, I believe it’s going to move over to Tiger State in my belief.

I just wanted to call in what is the Christ through revival and do you believe that God and I’ll hang out in the first. You’re very welcome and I believe that’s totally false. I have gone on the internet and took a look at some of that. But it says in my Bible in Matthew 24, Jesus tells us what it would be like just before he would return. And what does Jesus say? In the last days, just before he would return, he says in Matthew 24, 24, there shall rise false Christ and false preachers.

And they shall show great signs and miracles, and it tells us here that in so much that if it were possible to receive genuine believers, the very elect. And Jesus says in verse 25, which I think is very significant, I’ve given you two thousand years warning. He says, behold, I have told you before. He says, I’m telling you this before it ever happens, that when you see the signs and wonders of the last days that it’s not coming from God, false preachers would do signs and wonders.

I would be suspect of anybody that claims to do signs and wonders in the last days. because the Bible says that false preachers would do signs and wonders, not genuine believers. And I think we have this counterfeit out there of signs and wonders that is really the in-time fulfillment of Christ’s prophecy here. We find also in the book of Revelation that Satan would use miracles to deceive those which dwell on the earth. And that Satan has the power to do miracles.

it’s in numerous places in the book of Revelation, but I’m going to quote one out of passage, and this is in 2nd Thessalonians where it talks about the Antichrist, and it tells us here that the Antichrist then shall that wicked one be revealed whom the Lord shall destroy with the Spirit of his mouth and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming, even him whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying miracles.

So here it tells us that signs and miracles would be done by Satan and also by the Antichrist. And we know in Matthew 24, 24 Christ says it would be false preachers doing numerical gifts in the last days. So I think this is a big counterfeit. And the easy way to check is find out what to actually teach about salvation. The Bible tells us that Deuteronomy 13 did if a preacher promise a miracle and the miracle will come to pass.

He says, don’t listen to that preacher even if he can perform a miracle. If his message doesn’t agree with the word of God. And so it says reject that preacher based upon his message and if his message is not in agreement with the word of God, you’re not to follow that preacher even though he can promise and a miracle take place. Satan can do miracles. A lot of people don’t realize that Satan can do miracles and the Bible tells us he will be miracles and has done miracles and we’ll do them in the last days and that’s what we’re seeing I think happening today.

We’re now going to go to Dale and Dale is in Jackson, California and Dale, welcome to Bibleline. You are on the air. Hi, Dr. Lindstrom. Yeah. I was wondering if you have any information on the Quaker Church. I was wondering if religious society friends, or is this sort of Christian science or Mormons? I’m not too sure I’d have to look it back up again. There’s so many things out there that you can get them all mixed up if you’re not careful.

But I can find out for you. If you have an Internet access, you can just Google the Quaker Movement and you’ll find out a lot. I’m sure one, two, three. not too many Quakers around today, I don’t think, but unless they’re reviving their movement. But I think they’re a very small minority. But again, from what I remember, I think that like most they’re adding works to salvation and it’s how they live their life that is going to determine where they’re going to spend eternity.

And so it works oriented in their force falls. So you have to just always ask that question. What do you think you have to do to go to heaven? And if it’s other than Jesus alone, it’s a false message. And then of course, can you lose your salvation? And generally all these groups, I think including the Quakers believe you can lose it. Which means again, it’s by works. Right. You know, I got this thing off the Wikipedia. Yeah. Off the internet and they said that the Quakers don’t have any doctrinal beliefs.

They don’t have any, they didn’t see any opinion on hell or anything in that weak period thing. And they said that they believe in the inner light that God’s in every person. That’s what the period thing is. Well a lot of people believe that there’s a little spark of goodness in each and every one of us. And if we just kind of blow on that spark and fan it and get it going and let it get him brighter and better and so on.

that then eventually you’ll be eligible in your heaven because you have just made that little spark of goodness burn and become a good person. But that’s certainly kind of the Bible. We’re all born with a wicked simple nature and unable to save ourselves. That’s why Christ came to be our Savior. That would be wrong. I’ll have to look at it for myself. If you’re trying to reach any of them, just do it the same way you’d reach anybody else.

Tell them, John 3 16. Right. That Christ is the Savior and who’s to ever believe it and him should not perish but have everlasting life. Okay. Glad you’re listening up there in Jacksonville Dale. Yeah, I enjoy your program. Well, thanks for very much. Take care. That’s Dale in Jacksonville, Fortam. We’re on up there every day. We have ten o’clock live as we come out of ten o’clock live. We have Tom in Tampa for him and Tom, welcome to Bibleline you’re on here.

Good morning my brother, greetings in the strong name of our Lord. I have a question for you. Are you familiar with the simple church revolution? I don’t think I am, no. Okay, there’s a book out there. There’s a lot of, actually became aware of it kind of uniquely, but there’s a lot of folks kind of moving to it. I know one thing that I’m finding out is there’s a link to Andy Stanley up in the North Point Church in Georgia.

But I was just checking to see I tried to find out because I think that I know some folks are moving at Shannon. If you not familiar with it, we’ll just keep praying for your ministry and keep listening. Okay, Tom, and I’ll have to check that out. The simple church ministry will take a look look at that and see what’s going on there. We now have Lynn in Richmond, Virginia, and Lynn. Welcome to Bibleline You’re on there. Hi, Pastor Han, how much is calling in in response to the man who was asking about Quakers?

Yeah. I belong to a church who’s done from Quakers and we’re an evangelical friend in the mechanics bill area. Okay. And we do not believe in the work, you know, by salvation by work. I think there are some areas of the, I guess there are evangelical friends that are a little different and we were even warned about it in our membership class, not all the evangelical friends are the same, but I think that we are taught the truth at our church.

Well, how many of you, that’s wonderful to hear. Yeah, so I just wanted to throw that in there. I appreciate it and thank you for letting us know because you know sometimes we can throw everybody in the same Super Bowl and they don’t already belong there. Right, right. Well, thank you. Keep listening up there and you too. Bye bye. That was Lynn up in Richmond, Virginia. We have Denise in San from Florida. Denise, welcome to Bibleline you’re on there.

Thank you. I just heard your comment about well, I know how the Bible states that we’re all born of sin and we God searches out after us, but my question I guess would be about Adam and Eve and they would be would they be considered different than us were they not have been created with the sinful nature I guess though they wanted they didn’t get the sinful nature until they sin you know when they took the fruit this made God and then of course that sinful nature has been passed down upon all their descendants but they were innocent and then became sinners by sinning we have to run Denise thank you for that call we’re out of time but thank you for listening to Bible and today.

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