Bibleline Radio Show – 2006-08-04 – Who, Me, in the Rapture?

At the rapture, all of the saved will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air. The unsaved will remain to live during the seven years of tribulation. During the tribulation period millions will be saved. If one does not accept the shed blood of Christ, Christ will shed that person’s blood. No one will escape His wrath and fury except the saved, which have received by faith His shed blood. What about you?

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Welcome to Bibleline with Dr. Hank Lindstrom. Coming to you from Calvary Community Church in Tampa, Florida. Declaring God’s love through radio and television. Providing real answers to an ever-searching world. Got a question? Dial toll free at 1-800-576-3771. That’s 1-800-576-3771. Now here’s the host of Bibleline, Dr. Hank Lindstrom. Good morning and welcome to Bible Eye and Great to be with you today. Thanks for tuning into the broadcast as we come to you live from Tampa, Florida from our studios here at the Calvary Community Church where I’m pastor in Tampa.

We welcome you to the program and look forward to being with you each and every day Monday through Friday as we bring Bible Eye and Tampa out of our Bible Eye and Headquarters at the Calvary Community Church We invite you to come by and visit our resource center. We’re open every day from about 8 in the morning until 4.30 in the afternoon, eastern time. And you’re welcome to come by and knock on the door to say hello and we’ll get a chance to meet you and you’ll get a chance to meet us.

You’re also welcome to come by on a Sunday and worship with us. And we have several things coming up here. We have on this Sunday the Lord’s Supper. Being the first Sunday of the month, we always do the Lord’s Supper prior to the morning. to the morning worship at 9.45 and then it’s done by 10.15 and we have our morning worship at 10.30. On the third Sunday the 20th we’ll have a dinner. Those are always a lot of fun.

We invite you to come and be our guest and stay for the worship service and then stay for dinner and we’ll have a great time. But also we’re going to have a baptism on that third Sunday. If you have not have been water baptized since you have been saved than you ought to. Water baptism as an infant doesn’t count. There is no such thing in the Bible. Baptism prior to your salvation doesn’t count because baptism is a testimony of how you were cleansed of your sin by the blood of Christ.

And obviously if you weren’t saved when you were baptized it doesn’t count because you can’t give testimony until after you have been saved. If you would like to be a part of our baptism, I would be honored to be the one that baptizes you. And maybe you attend a church where they sprinkle or do something else that they call baptism. Maybe you’d like to join us and we’ll be immersing people in a lake and we’ll do it the biblical way.

It’s a wonderful way to give testimony. You’re certainly invited. That’s at three in the afternoon. So what we’re going to do on that Sunday of the 20th, have the morning worship at 10.30. have the dinner following and then we’ll kind of caravan a little bit north of our church to a beautiful lake where a church member has their property and we’ll do it in their back lawn and it’s a beautiful beautiful place to do it and we will invite you to be a part of that.

Call our operators and give your name and tell them you’d like to be on the roll for the baptism on the third Sunday of August 20th August. We also have Gershan Solomon. Gershan Solomon is the head of the Temple Mount Faithful yesterday. On the 9th of Av, he attempted again to bring a cornerstone for the third temple up to the Temple Mount. And obviously this always causes a lot of excitement in Israel and is drawing attention to the fact that this temple needs to be rebuilt and the stones are prepared.

His organization has been cutting the stones now for years and years and he is going to leave Israel. Come here and be with us Thursday night, the 17th of August from 7 till 9. We hope that you’ll plan to be here with us and get an up-to-date report on the war, on what’s happening in Jerusalem, on the Temple Mount. How soon perhaps the temple can be built and will be, Obviously, at that point in the tribulation, I’m leaving before that happens.

So it could be that you’ll actually see and hear and talk to and shake hands with the very man that might build a temple after we leave at the Rapture. He is an Orthodox Jew. He does not believe Jesus Christ has yet come. He believes the Messiah is yet to come for the first time. And so He needs to be led to Christ. Of course, I’ve talked to Him many times, face to face and told him, Gershan, you need the trust Jesus as your Savior.

You must sighs already been here once and is coming a second time. And of course he disagrees and says he hasn’t come once but he’s coming the first time after that temple is built. Certainly we’re in agreement that the Messiah, the second time when he comes will come to a rebuilt temple. He says it’s the first time we believe it’s the second time and maybe we’ll talk about that in a few minutes but August 17th, wipe that date down.

Thursday night, 7 till 9 or 9 30 or so we’d like to have you here and meet Gershahn Solomon in person as we learn about the latest things that are happening in Israel at this very moment as we speak as yesterday. He was approaching the Temple Mount with a cornerstone for the Third Temple. Exciting stuff, we’d love to have you be here with us for those events. Tuesday night coming up we have our last and final class of first and second Thessalonians classes 9 and 10.

If you’re in driving distance you can come by and join us for that and we hope that you will. And that’s classes nine and ten. And of course, if you can’t get out or if you are in another city listening to Bibleline, you can order the CD series. It will be completed this coming Tuesday night. And then you can order the ten hours of teaching of the first and second Thessalonians, one of the great series that we’ve done and really does define all of the things related to the Rapture and the things that follow the book of 1 Thessalonians and 2 Thessalonians, give us some great insight and proof that we will not go through one second of the tribulation period, that we’re going to be raptured out before the tribulation, then the Antichrist will be revealed, then the third temple which will have been rebuilt will be the place that he will desecrate in the middle of the tribulation.

Really exciting material. You’ll want to get the CD series if you can’t be here in person. We’ll be taking phone calls. The phone number is 1-800-576-3771. 1-800-576-3771. So don’t write that number down. Have it handy. So if you have a question, maybe during the program, you’ll be able to dial right up and get in and get on the air. If you’d like to leave an offer a question, you’re welcome to do that as well. So keep that in mind.

So we’re going to get into the Bible for a few minutes and then we’ll be taking our calls. And again, we’re glad that you are listening today on Bibleline as we come to you live from Tampa, Florida, from our studios right here at the Calvary Community Church. In any case, the Rapture is about to happen sometime in this near future. We believe we have now come to the conclusion of a 2000 year age that is the time between the first and second comings of Christ.

And the church age, the dispensation of grace as it is called in Ephesians 3 2 began at Pentecost. We believe it will be concluded on Rasa Shana or the Feast of Trumpets whatever year it is concluded and if that happens this year that would mean it would happen September 22nd. So we don’t have a lot of time left if Christ is coming this year we could all be out of here very very shortly. If you’re a believer you’re going up in the Rapture whether you like it or not.

Every believer will go. Whether you wake or whether you sleep, the Bible says in 1 Thessalonians 5-9, Christ died for us and we’re going to be raptured up if you are a believer. Whether you’re asleep as a Christian or wake as a Christian, serving as a Christian or not serving as a Christian, if you are a genuine believer, you’re going to be raptured out. The world will be plunged into its darkest hours. The Tribulation Period that follows 7 years of length is really the last 7 years of the Old Testament that still has to tick off of the clock.

Jim in Richmond, Virginia calls in and asks about 2 tribulations. I’m not too sure what your question means, but the Preterist believe that the Tribulation Period already occurred between AD 63 and AD 70, and that Christ came back in all this Thus power in all of his glory in eighty seventy, of course nobody ever saw it. And I believe they are totally wrong, but they believe the tribulation period and the Second Coming have already occurred and that we are living in the Kingdom right now.

Obviously that cannot be correct and that is a false position. We have a wonderful book here called The In Times Controversy by Bye. Thomas Ice, Thomas Ice does a wonderful job on this book. It was also with Tim Lahan, Thomas Ice, and they just really, I think forever, show that the Preterist position is a wrong position. There are many that have come out of the Reformation. Those the nomination churches believe in Preterism. Usually the, most of the, I guess, the Reformation churches believe that were already in the kingdom that Christ has already returned and somehow the church has replaced Israel as call replacement theology.

But we’ve got several books that really do help you understand this craziness. But the real tribulation is still yet to take place and we believe that we can see in the world today the conditions being set that are described as what the tribulation will have wars and rumors of wars, incurable diseases, changes in our weather patterns, signs in the Sun, the Moon and the Stars, nations having problems without solution, and of course so many things at the Bible lists there that are all beginning to take place right now.

And of course we know the technology is available for the first time today for the literal fulfillment of the prophecies that involve things that only modern technological advances would allow. We believe we are getting close. We are close and we believe that maybe the Lord could come back even this year, but I’m not setting a date. But certainly we should not rule out the fact that He is coming and coming quickly. I like 1 Thessalonians 1-10 where it says that we are to wait for Jesus, His Son from heaven who delivered us from the wrath to come.

Jesus Christ is the next event on God’s program, not the tribulation. If we had to go through any of the tribulations, then the Bible would have to tell us that we’re waiting for that tribulation period. But the Bible tells us in 1 Thessalonians 1-10 that we’re to wait for his son from heaven which has delivered us from the wrath to come. So Jesus comes first, then the tribulation, and that’s quite clear in the two books of 1st and 2nd Thessalonians.

I hope you’ll get my 10 hours of teaching on CD. I just had a fellow come by yesterday who said that he bought the Revelation series, which are 12 CDs covering all 22 chapters. And he had to take a trip to Panama, Florida. And he listened on the way up and on the way back to all 12 hours. He was so excited. He He and his wife now are going to go through it a second time and he bought other CDs just yesterday when he came by.

You might want to get some of these CD series which are very, very powerful in explaining and making clear the gospel. One of our greatest evangelistic CDs is called How Perman is your Salvation. That one generally, if you get somebody to sit and listen to it, they usually trust the Lord of Savior. It’s that good. And we hear all the time, great success rate in people getting saved who listen to that particular CD. I’m Dr. Anglinstrom and this is Bible line.

It’s Friday. We’re glad to have you listening. We invite you if you don’t have a church and you’re in the Tampa Bay area to come by and visit us this Sunday. And of course, this Sunday will be when we observe the Lord’s Supper the first Sunday of the month of August. Then on the 17th of August the Thursday night will have Gershaun Solomon here bringing us a report on the Temple Mount and on the war in Israel. Fresh from Israel because yesterday he was there with this several ton stone taking it up to the Temple Mount.

So he will come back fresh from the excitement of all of that and we will have right here on Thursday night from 7 till about 9.30 or so planned to come and join us for that event. And then of course we still have one more week of the Tuesday night classes on 1st and 2nd tesololines. This coming Tuesday come out for classes 9 and 10. If you’re within driving distance and of course the 3rd Sunday the 20th of August will have a dinner.

And then also the baptism at 3 in the afternoon we invite you if you’ve not been water baptized sense your salvation experience. Then you want to be baptized and you’re welcome. I’d love to be the one to do your baptism and you’re welcome to join us. It will be in a beautiful lake setting. A beautiful green lawn that comes right down to the lake edge and we’ll have a wonderful setting. You can bring friends, relatives, tell them to bring their cameras and photograph the event and make it a memorable spiritual event where you give testimony to your faith in Christ and how you are cleansed of your sin by the blood of Christ.

We’re going to go to those phone lines. The phone number is 1-800-576-3771, 1-800-576-3771. This is Bibleline. I’m Dr. Anglinstrom and we have several off-air questions so I’m going to go to a few of those first. Again, the phone number is 1-800-576-3771. Off-air Dave in Plant City calls in and he says, people who teach there is no pre-tribulation says that you are a false teacher. Well, obviously I’ve been called a lot of things, but generally those who believe there is no pre-tribulation that we have to go through the tribulation, I believe we’ll go through the tribulation.

Generally, they don’t get much right and they usually don’t have salvation right. So therefore, they’ll be left behind when we leave at the beginning of the tribulation period. The Bible is very clear, you don’t have to go very far. If you just say with 1st Thessalonians, that book tells us that we are going to be taken out and then sudden destruction comes upon the world, the tribulation period. And so obviously the order is Christ 1st, the tribulation 2nd. But to say that Christ comes back at the end of it or in the middle of it or just before the end of it just really is a total, total misunderstanding of Scripture because that means they don’t rightly divide the word of truth.

The Church, the body of Christ, Jesus will never allow His bride to go through one second of the tribulation. The seven years have to do with Jacob or Israel. It’s the time of Jacob’s trouble, not the time of the Church’s trouble or the bride of Christ’s trouble. Obviously we’re leaving, they’re going to take charge. That’s why everything switches to Jewish territory once the rapture happens. Our temple will be rebuilt, the blood sacrifices will be offered, the Jews are back in the state of Israel, they’ll have enemies that hate them and are war with them.

The witnesses again will be Jews, 144,000 Jews will be the witnesses, two Old Testament prophets come back, Moses and Elijah, none of that’s happened yet, but that will happen after we leave. Thank you, Dave. I guess you’re running into people who obviously don’t have solid sound doctrine, which the Bible warns about, would be true in the last days. We have Mary in Richmond, Virginia. She says, where are we in prophecy right now? The answer is, we’re very, very, very close to the rapture, and then the seven years of tribulation will follow, and in Christ at the end of that seven years will come back to rule and reign on this earth.

We have a wonderful book of charts by Clarence Larkin. This book was written back in the teens, back in 1914, 1516, 1718, somewhere in that time. Very well, when the charts are though, are written or drawn as though they were drawn yesterday. You see him believing the scripture and showing the Jews returning to the state of Israel, becoming a nation again. That was long before 1948. But when you look at these charts today, it’s like you were obviously right on target looking after the events that take place.

He was actually writing them down and drawing them before the events took place. My favorite books is $45. That’s a good price. It usually goes for $10 or more dollars in that in the Christian bookstores. And most bookstores don’t even carry it. But it has chapters that explain and has a revelation charted out, Daniel charted out, Ezekiel charted out. Just lots of different books charted out and plus a lot of different scenarios where you get to see the overall picture of God’s plan for the ages from creation past to eternity future you’ll see it all laid out.

Mary and Richmond also asked will Israel prevail in the war in Lebanon? And of course the answer is yes. Israel is going to have a lot more wars and troubles before Jesus comes back seven years after the Rapture. Israel is never going to be destroyed. That is a promise that God has made. Israel is going to go through trouble and this trouble will bring many of them to come to know Christ as Savior. We have Rob in Seminole Forta called in and he says, that the Rapture is the next event.

Please explain or touch on Malachi 4 and is this applicable? Well Malachi 4 and the last two verses tells us that Elijah will come back before the Great and Dreadful Day of the Lord. The Great and Dreadful Day of the Lord is the last three and a half years of that seven year tribulation. So, after the Rapture happens, then the last of the Old Testament age will pick off the clock and then what Malachi is talking about will come to pass.

You see, in the Old Testament, you don’t have the rapture. In the Old Testament, you don’t have the church age. In fact, this 2000 years between the two comings of Christ was a mystery not revealed until after the Jewish people had rejected Christ and after Christ had gone to the cross and after this age began, it really then began to be explained. Paul explains it very well in Ephesians chapter 3. He says, let me tell you about this dispensation of grace, which was hid in Christ from the foundations of the earth.

It was not revealed until after. You see, because Israel was given a bona fide offer that had Christ been accepted in his first coming, the kingdom would have been established back then. So 2,000 years ago, the kingdom would have been established, Christ would be ruling over the earth right now. This present age of 2000 years would not have taken place. You and I would not have been born. It would not have happened. Because they were rejected, then God reveals what He would do with the Gentiles from the past 2000 years between the two comings.

Great passage in Melachi, but it will not become effective until after this church age as ended, the body of Christ has been raptured out and then Balakai, chapter 4, will become acolylumol. Rob in the Seminole calls again, he says, what about Revelation 3 verses 14 through 22? Please explain these verses for him. Well in Revelation 3, it’s a message here to the Church of Laodicea. There are seven churches that really did exist as John wrote the book of Revelation at the end of the first century.

They each were a prophetic picture of church history over the past two thousand years. The church at Ephesus pictured the first century church. The church at Samirna pictured the second and third century churches that were persecuted. The third church, the church at Pergamos pictured the church that occurred once Constantine declared the world to be Christian and so on and so on until you get down to Laetosia and it tells us the church of this age would be lukewarm. And notice he tells them that spiritually they were bankrupt even though materially they did well.

That’s true of today’s church. Material it seems like they have everything but yet spiritually they have nothing. And so he urges them to buy of him gold tried in the fire that speaks of rewards that can be bought or earned as we invest of our time and talents for his glory. And when you live for Christ you can earn rewards and that’s what he’s talking about. He talks about them about ready to lose their opportunity to be God’s witnesses because they were lukewarm and he says you make me want to vomit.

He made me want to spear you out of my mouth. And so the last day, church becomes nauseous to Christ because they’re neither hot nor cold. Yet they’re saved. And so he says he would chase them if you read toward the end of that letter. And then he invites them to have fellowship with him. He says, I’m standing outside the door of the church wanting to come in. It’s not the door of anybody’s heart, but it’s the door of the church.

it’s the church that leaves Christ out of their activities and they function without fellowship with him. He wants them to fellowship. Alright, we have Jess in Venice, Florida and he’s asking about who Babylon the Great is. Well Babylon in Revelation 17 and 18 is two-fold. One… It is a religious system which we believe will be headed up out of Rome. That the churches will unite in the ecumenical movement with Rome and there will be one world false church after the rapture.

Then it is also the political system which is the one new world order, the one world government that will also occur in the tribulation period. It’s actually a return back to the times of the Tower of Babel when there was one more religion, one more government, and one world language. And we’re about back to where we all started from when the nations were founded back in Iraq thousands of years ago. And when the end times would come, the Bible said that the nations that began in Iraq would come back to Iraq.

And we’re back in Iraq. We are at the end times. This is the time for Christ to return. We have lots of offer questions here. They’re coming in rapidly and maybe you’d like to call us at 1-800-576-3771. Doug in Pensacola, Florida just called in and says, how can God bless us as a nation for rebuilding a rack when we really want to destroy it? Well, obviously we have as a nation, I think, striven against the Lord. And we’re doing things that are really contrary to His Word in that we have really taken God in prayer out of the schools, the Bibles out of the schools, and all of these things are symptoms of a country that has gone away from God and God is going to judge us.

it will be as we involve ourselves in the Middle East that the judge will come. We got to run toward the break now and we’ll come back and do Bible and Part 2. So keep your radio dial tuned right where it is and we will try to get with you as soon as we can. We’re still having phone problems today. We should have it all resolved by Monday. Don’t go away. Bibleline will be back in a moment. Give us a call at 1-800-576-3771.

It’s 1-800-576-3771. We are in the little bit of time we have here till the end of the hour and I just want to say I’m Dr. Englund, this is Bible and we really enjoy bringing the program to you. I hope you’re enjoying it. Let me just say that we need your help as prayer partners and financial partners to keep Bible and all in the air. very real without you we could not be on the air and we want you to know that all of our monies go really to paying for radio time and equipment and telephone lines.

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But Jesus is coming, no doubt about it. And I think some of the things that happen to Pymeline is certainly Satan, the enemy, wanting us to be off the air. He doesn’t like this program because we are telling the truth without apology. We have some that don’t like us as we just heard a caller come in and say that he talks to you and says that I’m a false prophet. Well, it will be the first time that that’s been said.

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And again, we want to tell you that we’ve had some phone problems this week that were caused by lightning and we’re still trying to get all the equipment back up and running and this has cost us between a thousand and two thousand dollars that we weren’t expecting, not including what the phone company had to replace and I’m sure they spent over a thousand dollars replacing equipment that belonged to them that was burnt up in that strike. So please pray for us as we try to make all those repairs and this was not in our budget.

We weren’t expecting that. We really do run lean and mean. I don’t get paid. Our staff isn’t getting paid. We are putting every bit of money into getting this message out as far as we can get it to go. And that’s really our desire is to reach as many people with the gospel of Jesus Christ until Christ comes back. And you know, it says in 1 Thessalonians 2, 4, as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel.

We believe that is a real trust that God has given to us and to you as well as a believer. That we are entrusted with this message and we are to speak it and get it out. And so we are doing our best to do this which God has asked us to do and he is entrusted us with. And the Bible goes on to say even so we speak not as pleasing men but pleasing God. And so we know this pleases God and so we are doing our best to please God and to do what he has asked us to do.

This is the Great Commission. I call it sometimes the Forgotten Commission because most churches, if you were to ask them why do you exist, they’ll give you all kinds of statements about their purpose or mission statement. But you know, they leave out the Great Commission which says to go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature because that is the commission that we have and most churches have forgotten that commission and they’re out to do something else.

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In any case, we are excited about what is happening and how the Lord is using Bibleline. We hear stories every day of people getting saved, of people growing in the Lord, being challenged, many going into ministry, believe it or not. We’ve had so many that have just decided this is what God wanted them to do, is to get into ministry as a result of this program and we’re excited. Well, in any case, we have a lot of callers still trying to get in on our one line and we’re going to try to handle them as quickly as we can.

We’re taking Muslim off here to keep the line free for the newest ones that are calling in. We have Grady in Bradenton, Florida and he says, trouble of Jacob’s letter in Genesis. Jacob took the. I don’t know what that word is there. In any case, we really need to go to Jeremiah chapter 30, where it talks about the time of Jacob’s trouble. Jacob’s ladder is certainly not the picture of the tribulation period. That was something else indeed. We find that in Jeremiah 30, it talks about how the Jewish people would come back to the land that God had promised to them and that he would give them this land again.

When they would come back at the end of a two thousand year dispersion, then Jacob would He goes through the darkest hours, most difficult hours that Jacob had ever gone through. Remember Jacob was the one who at the point when he met the angel of the Lord and wrestled with the angel of the Lord, which I believe was a preincarnated appearance of Christ, then he got saved. His name was changed from Jacob to Israel, which means child of God.

So, it is Jacob that is referred to in Jeremiah 30 because it is Israel in unbelief back in their land that we are talking about. And after the rapture, in this time of trouble, many of them will have the scales come off their eyes and they will come to know Christ as their Savior. We have Gladys in Richmond, Virginia calls in just now. She says the word rapture in the Bible. Where is it? Where to find it? Well, if you look at 1 Thessalonians 4, 17, it says that we which are alive and remain shall be caught up caught up there it is caught up the word rapture means caught up and you have the equivalent right there