Bibleline Radio Show – 2008-07-24

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Welcome to Bibleline with Dr. Hank Lindstrom. Coming to you from Calvary Community Church in Tampa, Florida. Declaring God’s love through radio and television. Providing real answers to an ever searching world. Got a question? Dial toll free at 1-800-576-3771. That’s 1-800-576-3771. Now here’s the host of Bibleline, Dr. Hank Lindstrom. Well good morning and welcome to Bibleline. Great to be with you today. Thanks for tuning in to the broadcast. We look forward to being with you each and every day, Monday through Friday.

As we come to you live, from Tampa, Florida, from our studios right here at the Calvary Community Church, we’re out in the pastor. Thanks for tuning in today. We are excited about being able to be with you and hopefully you’ll enjoy this hour and Now, of course, the rest of the week. We’re excited about being able to bring Bible on to you. And by the way, we’re streaming right now to the internet. If you have internet access, you can catch this program live right now.

And you can catch it later in the day and tomorrow and the day after that and next week in a month from now. And I think over a year from now, you can listen to past Bible and programs all there in archive. You can download them in the MP3 format for your iPod. We have podcasting and all these things are free. Take a look at our website, Bibleline Ministries.org. Sure good to be with you, it’s Thursday. We have our television program tonight at 630 on DirecTV, Channel 367 nationwide.

In fact, it’s in Canada and the Caribbean as well. And anywhere in the North American continent, if you have DirecTV, you can catch our program at 6.30 Eastern Standard Time on Channel 367. Give it a try and check that out. Of course you can watch our programs on the Internet by clicking on the home page to the TV set to get our worship services. You click on the camera. And by the way you can catch our worship service live on Sunday morning.

All you have to do is at 11 o’clock Sunday morning on the home page of our website by the Bibleline Ministries.org, click on the camera and you’ll be connected to the live worship service. And those by the way are also in our time and you can watch a years where the sermons all sitting there waiting for you to take a look at. We have a wonderful resource center and you know when a lot of people go to the Christian bookstore they believe they’re in a safe zone that everything in the store is okay to buy or read.

That is not true. I would venture to say that most of everything that’s in most Christian bookstores is not safe to read. And even Paul tells us in the New Testament as he writes to Timothy, Timothy, be careful what you read. That was even back then before these modern publishers and so many things were being published. You really have to be careful what you’re reading. And the one book you can trust, of course, is the Word of God. And even now, with some of the new translations, you have to be careful even then because some Some of the new translations are the leading verses, adding verses, changing the text, changing the meaning.

Some of them more than others, but it’s kind of scary because sometimes people will come to me and say, this is what the Bible says and it’s the opposite of what you’re saying. I said, what translation are you using? And sure enough, it’s one of those new ones like the NIV, which oftentimes changes the total meaning of the text and gives you a wrong meaning. Plus it drops 44 verses in their entirety. 44 verses are just gone if you have the NIV Bible.

I don’t think I’d want a Bible like that, but a lot of people find it very popular and I think they are just not aware of the fact that they’re deleting the verses. And guess what? You might as well by the Jehovah’s Witness Bible because the Jehovah’s Witness Bible drops the same 44 verses. Even the name of the Jehovah’s Witness Bible is similar to the name of the NIV. New international version. The Jehovah’s Witness Bible is called the New World Translation.

New for New, that’s the same. International and world, they’re the same. Version and translation, JM592 Belichick70710Catal It seems like they got together because the Bibles both attacked the doctrine of hell, the deity of Christ, salvation by faith. It’s amazing and you really need to be on guard nowadays. We have a wonderful book in our Resource Center called New Age Bible Versions, which covers about 20 of the most popular new versions and it’s about 800 pages which will just curl the skin on your arm as you read what is happening today in our modern translations.

We have the old Schofield reference Bible here in our Resource Center. That’s the one I recommend. It’s the King James Bible with the notes by Dr. Schofield. All the problems I’ve really been dealt with and are answered in the notes in the Schofield. And in the Schofield, the notes are also geared to doctrine which helps you stay doctrinally sound in a time when doctrinal unsoundness, this seems to be the rage of the day. We also have, of course, books that I believe you can trust because these are books that I would recommend.

I’ve bought thousands of books during my Christian experience and most of them are not worth the paper they’re printed on. I hate to see you waste your money as I have. And so we’re recommending books on our research center. You can get a list if you’d like. Call and ask for it to be sent to you in the mail. We’ll do that pre-charge. You can also go online to our website by the line ministries.org. Click on the online bookstore and you’ll find them there.

We have some very inexpensive things. We have some for seven dollars, like knowing God’s will made easier. Bible teachings made easy. Bible study made easy. Bible prophecy made easy. The Bible made easy. We have the Bible promise book, a thousand promises in the King James Version, for five dollars, a thousand promises. We have one on Islam. That’s absolutely incredible. The facts on Islam about 80 pages and it’s for $7 and it shows the contradictions in the Quran. If you’re trying to lead someone to Christ of the Islamic This will give you the ammunition and the questions to ask and how you might present it to them.

We also have one called the facts on the messianic lodge and the masons in their belief system exposed for $7.00. Those are great buys. Plus, we have so many of my teachings. We just finished first and second Peter. Those are great, especially for this time in which we live right now in the last days. Christ is coming back. Second Peter, we just finished that book, said that in the last days scoffers would come and they would mock the teaching about the second coming.

Boy, did we see that today. Tells us what to expect, how to handle these days as a Christian, how to stand tall, how to present Christ to someone else, and how to recognize that what you have in your hand, if you have a Bible there, you have something most incredible. It is the Word of God given by inspiration of God written by men through the direction, the superintendent of the Holy Spirit, as he guided and directed the writing of the Bible.

He super intended the writing of Scripture, and he’s really the author. Well, we’re going to get into the Bible for a few minutes here, and I hope you have your Bible handy. And I want to talk about, again, terms that are being used today that really are not the gospel. And so many people use phrases, and I don’t think they’re thinking, and they’re copying creatures who use those same phrases and they might be popular, it might be used everywhere, but they’re not correct.

For example, give your heart to Jesus Christ. Well, that is really not scriptural. That is really wrong. There’s nothing wrong. write about it and you might say, well, why give your heart? Maybe your kidney or your lungs or your thyroid or your pancreas or some other body organ. This is really not making any sense at all. If you read what the scripture says, let me go to John 1 12. The Bible says the opposite is true for salvation. It says to as many as received Him.

That’s Jesus Christ. Salvation is not giving anything to God, but salvation is receiving the one that God provided for your sins and mind Jesus Christ. It says to them, God gave. So God is the giver and he gives the authority for you to become born again, to become a child of God. And then it says to those that believe or trust on the name of the Son of God. In other words, think about it. If you read John 1, 12, it tells us that God is the giver.

We’re the receivers. Now, if you tell somebody they have to give their life or give their heart to God to be saved, that’s 180 degrees out of phase. That is the exact opposite of what the Bible teaches and that makes you the giver and God the receiver. Whereas in God’s part of the salvation, God is the giver and we’re the receivers. Think about it everywhere you look. God is the Giver for God so loved the world. Have you heard that verse?

John 3 16 for God so loved the world that what he gave His only begotten son you cannot find this violated in the Bible at all and yet how many preachers are they thinking? Maybe it’s my background. I graduated in electrical engineering from the University of Florida in Gainesville, Florida went through the five-year engineering program and you know So A plus B had an equal C for me. And when I hear people say things that are absolutely the opposite of what the Bible teaches, it just grates on me.

And I say, how can they do that? They must not be thinking. They must not be thinking at all. Again, God is the giver in the Bible. Romans 6, 23 says, the gift of God is eternal life. God is the giver. He offers salvation as a gift. Ephesians 2, 8. is the gift of God. And we can go on and on and on wherever you look you’ll never find it violated. Salvation is a gift. God is the giver. We’re the receivers.

We receive it by faith or by trusting Christ as our Savior. And yet when you say, give your heart to Jesus, you’re making yourself the giver. God is the receiver. It’s the exact opposite. And it’s You could give God your heart and you would not be saved. You could give him your liver, your pancreas, your thyroid, your adenoids, your tonsils, whatever you want to give him. I’m saying all that just to make a point here that God doesn’t need anything that you have.

He doesn’t need any of your body parts. You know, if you think about it for a minute with all the pastors that say, give your heart to Christ. I would imagine in my sanctified imagination that if I entered heaven I would see great big barrels or vats full of hearts Where thousands of people just fill these vats up with their hearts. They gave their hearts to Jesus Can you imagine and what have they been asked to give their pancreas all these big vats full of fancriuses in heaven and so on.

I mean what I’m just saying is this is ridiculous. This is absolutely crazy. It doesn’t make any sense. It’s not biblically supported. It is absolutely wrong. We don’t give anything to God to be saved. God is the giver. We’re the receivers. Let me go back to John 1 12. It says to as many as received Him, Christ, to them God gave the authority, the power, for you to become born again to them that believe or trust on his name.

The way we receive Christ is reaching out in the hand of faith and trusting that Jesus Christ is indeed God who took on flesh and died to pay for our sins. The other one involving the so-called heart is asking Jesus into your heart. This doesn’t make any sense. I just heard the story this morning. Little boy was watching television with his grandfather and they were watching a heart transplant operation on television. Little Boy is pretty bright. When they got all done, they said, the little boy said to his grandfather, granddad, does that mean that if this person had invited Jesus into his heart, that he would have to do it all over again now because he’s been given a new heart?

You know, children are so literal. And then others have said, won’t he get blood all over him? Other children have said, what chamber will he live in? Chamber number one, chamber number two, chamber number three, chamber number four. Oh my goodness, you know children take you literally. And obviously there’s not one verse in the Bible that says, invite Jesus into your heart. Now when you trust Christ, God does come into all your body, but there’s no verse that tells you that you’re saved by inviting him to come into your body or to come into your heart.

You’ll see what about Revelation 3.20. Behold, I stand at the door, knock. If any man hear my voice and open the door, well guess what? That’s not talking about the door of your heart or the door of your life. Read the context. It begins in Revelation 3 verse 14. It’s talking about the church at Laodicea. And Jesus speaks to that particular church. He said, I’m standing at the door of your church. I’m knocking. If you will hear my voice and open your church door, I’ll come into your church and sup with you.

That means that supper has to do with fellowship. It’s not even a salvation verse. He’s addressing this letter to the people that were saved who had left Jesus out of their Christian life. And even though they were attending church, they were leaving Jesus outside the church door. And Jesus is knocking on the church door. To make that out that He’s standing at the door of your heart, which there is no door on your heart. Kids are smarter than adults.

They say there’s no door on our heart. They learn biology very early. But amazingly, adults buy this stuff, propagate this stuff, mislead little children. The Bible warns about misleading little children. Then anyway, believing this. And guess what? You can invite Jesus into your heart every day of your life and still go to hell. You don’t mean it. Yes, I do mean it. I was a victim of that. I was raised in a church that taught that and I did it every Sunday.

As I recall, I was never absent because I had to be deathly ill to Ms. Church, probably from the time I was sixth till I was eighteen, I invited every Sunday Jesus to come into my heart. That if you compute it is twelve years, at least a minimum of fifty times a year, at six hundred times I invited Jesus into my heart and I was never saved. I didn’t get saved until I was eighteen and I learned that I had the trust that Jesus died and shed his blood and paid my sin didn’t full across and when I trusted him as my Savior God would save me.

I could have gone to hell still asking Jesus in my heart every day of my life and on the last day of my life. Jesus come into my heart. Guess what? Wrong answer. Jesus says that we must believe the gospel and the gospel is the death barrel and resurrection message of Christ, you have to trust that Jesus died, was buried, and came back from the dead, and when you trust Christ as your Savior, God saves you. I’m pleading for souls.

And I’m telling you, Satan has done a great job of getting preachers and lay people alike, using phrases that will not lead anyone to Christ, but will lead them to hell. Because Because if they are trusting in inviting Jesus into their heart to go to heaven, they will not be saved. Because the way you are saved is Acts 1631, believe or trust on the Lord Jesus Christ. And I will also be saying, have you done that? Would you just right now do it if you haven’t?

Just say, Lord, I am a sinner. We all are. That is just being honest. But God right here and now, wherever I might be, I put my trust in Jesus Christ. As the one who died, paid for my sin debt by his definition, Blun was buried and rose again from the dead. I trust Jesus right now to save me, to be my savior, to forgive my sins, to give me the gift of eternal life. The moment you do, God of heaven knows, and He saved you.

We’re going to go to the phone lines. I’m Dr. Englunds from the phone numbers, 1-800-576-3771. And we’d love to hear from you. We have Tom in Richmond, Virginia. and tom welcome to bible and you’re on the air Hey, it’s kind of funny that you started off talking about being careful about what people read. I haven’t heard recently on your show. If anyone’s talked about that book, the new fiction book, and I know you’re stands on fiction, and I agree with it, it’s not to get mixed up in fiction with truth.

But the book is a shack. It’s really making its rounds and… and christian circle you know i have a really uh… pay attention to this book and i’m not familiar with what it’s about but uh… i i think all christian fiction can be dangerous i have a rule and i and i don’t think it right from the get going i became safe many years ago in eighteen i said i’m not going to read any christian fiction why because i don’t want to get mixed up my mind between what truth is, what the Bible teaches, and what I read in Christian fiction.

So I just don’t read it at all. And I think perhaps it’s a good rule. But you know, in 2 Timothy chapter 4, it tells us that the time would come and it’s here right now when men or people would not endure sound doctrine. But after their own lust, they would heap to themselves teachers having ancient years. They’d want to have their ears tickled and they would turn away their is from the truth as the Bible and be turned on to fiction.

It’s a funny thing in the Bible. I didn’t know if you heard of it or not, but it’s a horrible book. It’s amazing that people are reading. I just like the warrant. Thanks for learning me. I didn’t know about it and I’m going to find out about it because it’s scary that people, it’s a shame that people too often read more books about the Bible and never read the Bible itself. I agree. It’s a couple of things though. I just alert you on it.

He portrays God as a Black woman and portrays the Holy Spirit as an Oriental woman. The races don’t have a really play into that. But God as a woman is just, you know, that’s not what the Bible teaches. And he’s actually, it’s so popular. He was talking about making it into a movie. And one of the people that this author wants to play this part of the father, which he calls Papa, would be open win for him. to me that’s a tip off the you know if you can’t see over in the winfrey is on it she’s not you know she’s very anti-christian you know and you want her to play the lead in this this movie it’s kind of ridiculous that is good That is crazy because like over a century believes that there are many ways to have and that Christ is not the

way the truth to life and the only exclusive way to get to God. You can choose many many many many different ways and that’s her religious field today. And wow well thank you for letting us know. Alright Tom in Richmond, Virginia about a new book, a fiction book called The Shack that presents God as a woman. We have Nathaniel and Nathaniel is in Bill grades Florida and Nathaniel welcome to my blind you’re on the air. Nathaniel where are you?

Yes sir. You’re on the air. Yes sir. I like that the question. Go ahead. I want to know is the final of the Catholic Church. It is a Pope. It is a Paul not Paul but of the Catholic Church. Okay, the answer is, no, Jesus Christ did not found the Catholic Church. The church that Jesus Christ said He would be building is not a building, it’s not a denomination, it’s not an organization, it is a living body of believers comprised of everyone who would get saved from Pentecost until the Rapture.

And so there is no church denomination that can claim legitimately that they are the Church of Christ. Now individual believers worldwide that have trusted Jesus Christ alone, as are only means of salvation, are members of the True Church. You cannot join the True Church. You are placed into the True Church by God the Holy Spirit at the moment of belief. The Bible tells us in 1 Corinthians 12-13, by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body. that body is the body of Christ.

Whether you are Jew or Gentile, whether you are bond or free, and we have all been made to drink into one spirit, verse 27 of 1 Corinthians 12 says, now, right now, right at the instant you believe in forever thereafter, you are the body of Christ. So the body of Christ is comprised of every believer worldwide from Pentecost to the Rapture that trust, Christ is our Savior, and no Peter was not the first Pope. Obviously all you have to do is read what Peter says and you’ll see that he does not claim that.

He claims that he is one of many little stones that are built upon the foundation stone which is Jesus Christ himself. Read 1 Peter chapter 2. He explains that all of us have Christ as our foundation that he is the rock, the precious stone that we’re built upon and we’re all just little living stones that we’re born again and are built on that foundation and are the body of Christ and there is no denomination on the earth that can claim they are the Church of Christ.

Hope that helps, Nathaniel, and thank you for that call. We are now going to go to an anonymous caller in Palm Harbor, Florida and… the end. 7 7 8 8 8 ravity. We want to welcome to the program here anonymous and Paul Marber Ford welcome to Bibleline. Good morning. My question is recently I’ve heard a pastor speak about dispensationalism being a lie from the pit of hell. Could you explain that a bit to me or what that means? Well it means obviously he doesn’t want to accept the Bible as being the inspired word of God.

If you read Ephesians chapter 3 verse 2 Paul talks about have you read or are you familiar with the dispensation of the grace of God which I delivered unto you. So obviously Paul taught dispensationalism and he said that we are presently living in the dispensation of grace. Then he talks about the dispensation that will follow this one in Ephesians 1-11 1-10-11. He says there is going to be the dispensation of the fullness of times. That is the millennium when the times have come to the place where Jesus returns and the heavens will rule over the earth and there will be a thousand years of peace on the earth called the dispensation of the fullness of times.

The dispensation preceding this one is the dispensation of law clearly, an age that began at Mount Sinai and will conclude at the end of the tribulation period when Christ returns to establish the last dispensation. Clearly he’s rejected the Bible and if you don’t believe the Bible then you’re not going to believe in dispensations. If you believe the Scriptures they’re clearly there. Okay that’s very good. I’m glad to hear that. Well to your explanation I appreciate it. You’re very welcome.

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And we reach a large area, even bleeding over into Ohio and also catching Charleston, West Virginia. And we have a caller right now from Huntington, West Virginia. We have Harry on the line. And Harry, we welcome you to the BuyBlind program. Thank you for calling in. Thank you for taking my call. Then listening there, we talked to you were talking about some of the things people have been reading. And I didn’t know if a lot of people out there and maybe get your comments on this.

This Bible is called the New King James Version. How counterfeit that this publication is and how misleading it is and the omission and everything that this Bible has in it. And it seems like in our area here that a lot of fundamental characteristics that used to spend on the old King James Bible that people are leading and going that direction that this new King James removes Lord 66 times, removes God 51 times, removes heaven 50 times, and there’s over 20,066 words that’s been omitted, and there’s even a symbol on that thing that’s kind of leading to the occult.

I know a lot of people were aware of that. I’d like to hear your comments, so I’ll just get off of you here and like your comments on that. Thank you for taking my call. Thank you Harry and Huntington, West Virginia, and I am aware of that. We have a sheet that has those same stats that you just read. And the symbol on the New King James Version is the symbol for the pagan trinity, and it It is the same symbol you would see on rock group records like Led Zeppelin and others.

And this is amazing that they could even do this. And the subtle changes, you know, you would have thought the New King James would have been the King James made new, just changing the archaic words and bringing up the speed, but they did far more than that. And I’m afraid they did a great deal of damage. I would recommend that you stay away from the new… King James Version. You know, in Matthew 7 where it says narrow is the way that leads into life, which is Christ.

The way to heaven is narrow because there’s only one way and Christ is that narrow way and when you simply trust Him, you become saved. But there’s many other choices and you could choose any religion you want. They’ll all take you to hell. Only Christ will take you to heaven. Well, the new King James puts the word hard in place of the word narrow. That’s a totally good word. different concept. That seems to imply works for salvation and it’s hard to go to heaven.

It’s not hard. Jesus paid it all, but we simply receive the finished work of Christ at the cross and trust Him and become saved. Harry, thank you for that call and absolutely we need to watch out for some of the new translations. We have Alex and Alex is calling in from I’m Halmer, Florida and Alex welcome to Bibleline you’re on the air. Yes, I have a question, comment, and what do you think of the Book of Mormon? Alright, the Church of the Latter-day Saints or the Mormons are occult.

They deny the basic doctrines of the Bible, hell, the deity of Christ, salvation by faith, They really have some very, very strange beliefs. If you read their writings, they actually claim to have migrated here from the planet Colub, K-O-L-A-B. K-O-L-K-Lub. And obviously they believe that they had to come here where they could get bodies for their spirits to dwell. And so they’re into salvation for the dead. They can, they collect all these genealogies and then you can go into the temple if you’re a bonafide Mormon and you can actually perform rituals for your dead relatives and if they receive them they can be saved by your works that you do for them.

And they believe in salvation by works. In fact they believe water baptism is essential for salvation. And so you can go and be baptized for your dead relatives. And if they choose to receive it, they can be saved. And so you’re not only trying to work to save yourself, but the Mormons are working to save those relatives of theirs that didn’t even know about it. And so it’s crazy. But Mormonism is a cult. They do not believe in the same Jesus that we believe in.

And the Book of Mormon is a fairy tale. There’s no reality to it. It talks about cities in North America and there’s no archaeological evidence for one place that the Book of Mormon talks about. It’s actually believed to be a fictional story that Joseph Smith bought and then converted to the Book of Mormon and it has to do with the history of the US of A and certainly it’s a fictional story but there’s nothing in reality about it at all.

But it also contradicts the Bible. When you read the book of Jude, it says, we’re to contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. And that is the body of truth that’s contained in the word of God. When somebody new comes along with a revelation that contradicts the Bible, we have to reject the new revelation. We’re to contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Plus there’s the warning in Revelation 22 when somebody adds to the revelation that God is completed.

They are under God’s curse. You are not to add to the Bible nor subtract from the Bible. Those who would do that are obviously going to be under God’s curse. The Mormons certainly are. Plus in Galatians chapter 1 it says, though we are an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel. Then that which we have preached on you letting me accursed. Well the gospel of Mormonism is not the same gospel as that in the Bible. So the Bible says they’re a curse and their whole revelation comes from an angel and it says though we are an angel from heaven preach any other gospel and do you let him be a curse and so the angel Moroni gave the revelation to Joseph Smith and I call it Moroni baloney it is absolutely false.

You know I at one time years ago I joined and I left the church. I punish because I didn’t believe everything or much of anything they were saying. I truly left the church because I didn’t know if it was a cult, but I just thought some of this just can’t be true. And you have to be a member of that church, everything they’re saying in your heart. And I didn’t. So I chose to just leave the church. Well you are fortunate that you got out because it’s a false belief system.

Unfortunately, many dear people are in it and will be in hell for eternity because they have been misled and we need to pray for them and they can be one to Christ and we need to pray for them that they would see the truth and come in on the Lord. Okay, thank you. You’re very welcome. You know, the Mormons also have Joseph Smith change the Bible. If you have Mormon Bible, then I have one. The first four verses before Genesis 1-1 talk about Joseph Smith before it talks about in the beginning God.

That ought to tell you something right there. And somebody puts their own name in the Bible before God is mentioned as the creator of the universe. That ought to just cause you to just say, this is craziness. This cannot be true. We’re now going to Miami, Florida, and we’re going to talk to Burt and Burt, welcome to Bible on your On the Air. Hey, good morning, Hank. Good morning. That’s a question for you. Actually, in the days of Noah, when he was building New York, and if I remember correctly, it was 120 years that it took him to, that he was preaching.

That’s right. That’s great. Okay. Now, of course, I would assume that those people had heard Noah preach and believe they, but died before the blood. Those people will be saved, or there’s a Bible strictly saying that during those 120 years, nobody believes. Nobody got saved during that whole 20 years and that’s amazing how wicked the world had become where Noah faithfully preached for 120 years but nobody got saved. Okay, the other thing I wanted to ask you is during the dispensations, because you’ve brought up the, I believe there’s seven dispensations all under grace now, that during those How, for example, I’ll give you an example of ADRA.

When ADRA was called out, and he was the father of the, where the Jewish people later came to be, what happens to all those people that did not belong, or were not in the group of ADRA hands, and they weren’t part of this group, and then went on to be the Jewish race where the God gave the commandments and the law to them. to them. They’re not the people that were not part of his lineage. How would they say?

How could they be safe? Well, they were saved the same way we are in the same way Abraham was, and that was by believing the gospel message. Abraham heard the gospel, and in Genesis 15 and 16 he believed the gospel, and it was counted to him for righteousness. That’s Genesis 15 and 6 quoted three times in the New Testament in Romans 4, Galatians 3 and James 2. But you see Abraham and his descendants were to be God’s witnesses in all the world.

So they were to proclaim the gospel to the other nations. And God wanted one nation that would remain true and faithful. Obviously they failed, but they would be his witnesses. Isaiah 43-10 says to Israel, you are my witnesses, say of the Lord. Now they failed miserably. And now God has turned to us Gentiles as his witnesses. In Acts 1, 8, Jesus said at Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit would come upon us as believers, that we would be witnesses unto him in Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, and unto the uttermost parts of the earth.

And so we, the Gentiles have now been the witnesses, but we’re failing terribly today in getting that message out. And so God is going to go back and finish his program with the Jews right after the rapture, The witnesses again will be Israel and there will be 144,000 Jewish men that will do the evangelism right after the rapture. It tells us in Revelation 7, I heard the number of them that were sealed and they were sealed 140 and 4000 of all the children of the tribes of Israel.

And then it names 12 tribes, 12,000 from each tribe, 12 times 12,000 is 144,000. will be the Jewish witnesses that through their witness Revelation 7 9 tells us that millions and millions will get saved around the world in the tree relationship period through the Jewish witness that will obviously be fresh and alive again. But they failed and they were to be the witnesses to the world prior to Jesus coming. The folks that during Abraham’s time or before that did not or nowhere near Abraham or even knew that God had called them out, they, God would have to judge them and we know that God is just and they never heard the gospel, they never heard faith in God.

I guess there will be a different way that God would judge those people. Well, that’s not true. You know, in fact, when you read the book of Joshua, for example, you have the story of Rahab the Harlot. And if you read chapter two, Rahab believed the gospel by having heard the story of the defeat of the nation of Egypt, the most powerful country in the world by God as he delivered amount of Egypt. And he said, she said everybody in the whole and the whole Middle East there, trembled and feared this God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that led the children of Israel under Moses out of Egypt through the Red Sea.

And she gives her testimony there. And we see the beginning there of this wonderful story of the Scarlet Thread, the picture of the blood of Christ as it goes through the Old Testament. She was put a rope over the wall. And when they conquered the city of Jericho. They would spare her part of the wall and home above on the top of the wall because of the catholic court that talked about the blood of Christ that she trusted in and she and her family were saved.

And you read these marvelous stories of people and she was a Gentile and she was a prostitute on top of it and yet God loved her and she got saved by believing that gospel and you see numerous stories like that through the Bible. Bert, thank you for your call. It’s been great and I hope you have a wonderful day and we’ll have to go to my next caller. Thank you so much. That was Bert down in Miami. We’re now going to go to Carl in Tampa, Florida and I don’t.

All right, we’re going to go to Carl and Carl, thank you for calling in the Bible. Yeah, that’s fantastic. I know that in the Bible, the sentence means macomoea in the Greek. In the Hebrew it’s got another name and it means a not change of mind, mechanism, and it’s a return to God. Well no, it doesn’t mean that it means to lament or to grieve. There’s another word, shoe, S-H-U-V translated repent only three times. If you look at that word, it’s translated over 600 times to turn.

It should have never been translated those three times in the English word repent. What the trans guys were trying to do because there was such repetition in those particular three verses that we’re talking about That they threw in that word repent to get some variety in the language But that’s a mistake that the main word that’s used and it occurs 43 times is a word that means to lament or to grieve and is made equivalent when quoted in the New Testament of changing your mind and What is interesting is that it is used of God?

37 times out of the 43 times, and that means 86% of the time it’s karate repents in the Old Testament. Only six times does it occur of men, so only 14% of the time the Hebrew word for repent is used, does it refer to men. 86% of the time it’s God. So if somebody were to say it meant to turn from sin or to turn, that would mean that you have a holy God, a sinless gone, he’s not capable of sinning, turning from his sin.

The three that you’re talking about from the Hebrew word shu, V, should have really been translated turn, but they translate, I think we’re trying to get some variety because in each of those verses the word shu is used about from three to four times. And I think they got tired of saying turn, turn, turn, turn, so they said turn, turn, and repent. But it’s all the same Hebrew word it should have been never translated into the English word repent.

Okay so then in the Old Testament it means the same as the New Testament, the change of mind or change of thought. It means it can mean exactly that because when the Old Testament passage is used, for example in Jonah and it says in the New Testament that God said that that was the greatest revival of all time, the whole city of Nineveh repented at the preaching of Jonah. And in the New Testament, the equivalent New Testament word is used is Betanoia, which is a change of mind.

So the people there rent their clothes and they grieved and lamented over the fact that they had. They had . He was not known the truth and when they heard the revelation that God was going to judge their city and destroy it. They changed their mind and I believe the preaching of Jonah and what happened was that God spared the city. And of course later he eventually judged that of it and destroyed it. But he gave them a reprieve for several hundreds of years because they did respond to the preaching of Jonah.

and there you see the love of God going to a pagan Gentile city and bringing the message to them. And the equivalent word, do you read Matthew 12, it says that Jesus was a greater than Jonah, and Jesus was a greater than Solomon, and Jesus was greater than anyone that’s come along because he’s God who took on flesh, and it talked about the incredible results that Jonah had. preachers since has been able to have a whole city change your mind like the city of Nineveh did.

You know the people believe them that repent means transform your sins. How can they justify the fact that God, repent, and God had no sense to repent? Right they can and so that’s an argument that I like to use with people to say look you haven’t done much thought here because if you recognize that 86% of the time the word is used of God repenting that it cannot mean it cannot mean that it depends on that right it can’t be turned from sin right so that’s right that makes sense that when you read that the the thing is that i was looking up on the internet last night and it did show in the greek it said mapton oil but in the hebrew it had another word in this or that word meant it’s the current guy returned to the laws and i was thinking well that

doesn’t make sense to either because if that means that god repented that we got had to turn back to the god, you know, to the god. No, that’s the word, the word is nachim. And but but but I think that whatever you looked up there is only referring to those three times when the word shoe of SHUV in Hebrew is translated repent. That should have never happened. I was just a bad translating mistake there because they won a variety.

But the word shoe does mean turn. and uh… and uh… it talks about uh… you know like i said it’d be used four times at a person they get tired of state turning turning turned and or return and then all of a sudden they would throw in repent on top of it i think a variety and that was just i was a bad mistake let me ask you another real quick question uh… on the some people dot something to that out and he’s really a fighter for the Lord he’s really excited any reason by what i’m but he said he’s reading the keen james the teenage so you’re familiar with that No I’m not and I don’t know whether that’s if they change the text at all but it might be just an addition where they have pictures or notes in there and that might be perfectly fine.

I’m curious I’ll have to check that out. King James for Teenagers. I don’t know what it is. Yeah well I give him the paper that we have that I got from you uh… the NIV and the things that they’ve omitted and things that they’ve changed and he’s going to check it out against his bible the king james the teenagers and i just wanted if they did just you know another name uh… you know because i don’t want to hear about the new king james uh…

there’s uh… you know there’s a lot yes there has been changed but when you hear anything that’s different and i just wonder you know if it is saying bible but you know maybe they just took out the reason that i was out of love it’s sure hard to keep up with i have i know they have bibles now for uh… teens for senior citizens for women for African-Afro-Americans, for Anglos, for whatever. So I think it’s just trying to sell Bibles.

And I’m not too sure whether it means it’s just still the King James with just some maybe pictures and notes and things that attract kids to look at. But I’ll try to find out. Okay, thank you. Thank you for calling call that was Carl in Tampa, Florida. We’re now going to go to Angel in St. Petersburg. Angel, welcome to Bibleline you’re on here. Hey, hey. How are you doing? Good. My statement or question if you are with regarding the King James Bible.

I used to be one of these King James Bible Thumper guys and just nothing but King James. All other versions were bad. but i i i i think instead it just came to a realization that you know the king james is not uh… infallible you know i i believe no it’s not for these kind of we just talked about that with this previous call here right now i was listening that the word she should have never been translated repent in fact the word metanoia in the greek should never been translated repent because the english word repent never did mean the same thing as the greek word and That’s a problem.

But what I like about the King James, not saying that the King James only, but the King James, the problems have been pretty much worked out because it’s been around 400 years. When you see a brand new translation come out there and they’re selling it on the market, it usually takes 20 or 30 years before people expose all the problems that they create because sometimes they solve some problems but they bring along a whole bunch of more new problems that you’re not going to be aware of.

If you have a good study reference bible the problems have already been attacked for four hundred years and usually exposed in the margin someplace and and and and and at least you know uh… what the problems are exposed to you and you can deal with it with a stick out of my head in our first john chapter five verse seven where king jameser says the father to son of the whole spirit are one and uh… a lot of people use that uh…

scripture for basis on you know jesus being god not i i think it’s a that reference because in the Greek it says the water, blood and the spirit are one. And so I just think of the back translation just on that verse. It’s not a good reference when you’re trying to… Well, you don’t really mean it because there’s so many other verses you can use. But basically that problem came about because of these so-called best manuscripts which are not the best, the Sinaiticus and the Vaticanus, which are older.

But you know if you read the story what happened with the cyanticus, that was found in a trash pile ready to be burned. The monks there were burning that to heat the monastery at St. Catherine’s Lake to Mount Sinai. I got a run where out of time I will be back again tomorrow. Again, if you could help Bibleline Call and give a gift by credit card and if you want an envelope to be sent, ask for that and we’ll mail it to you and you can mail your gift into Bibleline.

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