Bibleline Radio Show – 2008-08-12

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Welcome to Bibleline with Dr. Hank Lindstrom. Coming to you from Calvary Community Church in Tampa, Florida declaring God’s love through radio and television, providing real answers to an ever-searching world. Got a question? Dial toll-free at 1-800-576-3771. That’s 1-800-576-3771. Now here’s the host of Bibleline. Dr. Hank. Franklin Strum. Well, good morning and welcome to Bibleline. I’m great to be with you today. Thanks for tuning in to the broadcast. We look forward to being with you every day, Monday through Friday as we come to you live from our studios here in Tampa, Florida at the Calvary Community Church where I’m the pastor.

Love to meet you. If you ever get a chance to come by, please do. If you come in from out of state to visit Florida, visit Tampa from wherever you might be coming from, take that extra minute to come by and say hi to us. We’re right next to the Tampa International Airport. We’re just one block west of the main north-south runway. That gives you a little bit of a visual as to where we are and easy to find.

So we hope you’ll take that time to combine seats. Of course, if you live locally or in the area and within driving distance, please come on by. You can always visit during the week and visit our resource center, open every day till about 4.30. You can also come by on a worship day and this Sunday coming up the 17th of August is the third Sunday. That means food. We’re going to have a wonderful lunch dinner right after the worship service.

You’re welcome to come at 1030. Be my guest and bring your family, your Bible, your appetite and join us for the worship service and then stay for some great home cooked food and a lot of great fellowship and a good time together. I’d love to get to sit down with you and meet with you and I hope you’ll come this Sunday. This will be a great Sunday to come because we also are having a baptism in the afternoon at three o’clock at a lake very close here to Bible on headquarters and we’d love to have you join us in that baptism if you’ve not been baptized.

Since you have been saved, you ought to be. Not to be saved because water will not wash away your sin. Baptism is a testimony of how you were cleansed of your sin by the blood of Christ, the water is merely symbolic. But we immerse people, that means we put them under the water, and that’s the picture of the fact that we have been crucified with Christ buried in Rose. Visit again from the dead. And we’re going to have that this coming Sunday at 3 o’clock.

You’re welcome to come and be a part of that service. Call, get your name on the list, and we can give you directions, instructions over the phone. And we hope you’ll just make it a day. If you’re in driving, this has come for the morning worship service at 10.30. Stay for the lunch and then hang out with us a little bit and we’ll all head up to the lake and we’ll, it’s a beautiful backyard of a church member and they have green grass and there’s shade trees and it’s just gorgeous looking over the lake and the grass comes right down to the water’s edge and then there’s a soft gentle slope of sandy bottom and we’ll baptize this Sunday afternoon at three.

So please call if you’d like to be a part of that. Maybe you have a church that doesn’t baptize. Maybe you have a church that doesn’t put people under the water and maybe you’d like to be baptized. I’d be honored to be the one to baptize you this Sunday. And of course, if you want to wait till February, The Lord has come back. We’ll be baptizing in Israel. We’ve baptized twelve this past year on our trip to Israel and You can do it then but if you haven’t been baptized since you’ve been saved You ought to be as a believer an obedient believer and follow Christ’s instructions to be water baptized and it doesn’t save again, but it’s an act of obedience and and Christ certainly will bless you for your obedience in giving testimony in this way.

So make plans to be in this Sunday’s baptism if you can. Also, our Resource Center has a lot of great stuff in it. We’ve got some wonderful books that will really help you in understanding your Bible. And I think one of the greatest tools is the Scofield Reference Bible, which is geared to doctrine and what you really need to know. This originally came out in 1909 and 1917, and those are the editions that we sell that we have in our Resource Center and you can get yourself a skill field bible for us.

If you go to your Christian store I guess what? You’ll probably say you wanted the new hybrids which the notes are watered down. They’ve added notes that were not by Dr. Schofield. Notes that I would disagree with. And so they’re inferior. The real Schofield Bible you want to get is one of those real old ones and they’re hard to find out there. And we have exclusively those in our resource center. By the way, you can take a look at our resource center by going online to BibleLineMinistries.org.

You can also go online. and catch our radio program live right now. And you’ll be able to catch it, of course, in archive later by going to BibleLineMinistries.org. You can catch our worship services by going to BibleLineMinistries.org and click on the camera, and you can catch our television programs by clicking on the TV set on the home page. Lots of stuff there for you. I hope you’ll take advantage of it. If you don’t have a church home, you can catch our worship service live on Sunday morning by going there at 11 o’clock Eastern Standard Time, click on that camera and when I begin the actual message the video in the audio will come up and you’ll be able to listen and watch the worship service and if you have a big monitor you can go ahead and hit view on your computer and and hit full screen

and you will be able to fill the whole thing up just a few months ago we had a a reunion in the mountains of Kentucky and there they had a large screen projector of the computer and they showed it for the people, the worship service for the people at the family reunion. And apparently one guy, I went from what I heard raised his hand at the invitation and trusted the Lord in the mountains of Kentucky watching the Sunday morning service right here from Tampa, Florida from the County Community Church as I brought the message.

You can take advantage of that wherever you might be and join us for our Sunday worship or they’re in archive. You can watch a year’s where the sermons all sitting there waiting for you. We’re going to get into our Bibles for a few minutes and you’ll find Revelation is one of the most fascinating books. And in the book of Revelation we learn that there is coming a thousand year kingdom of peace on earth, good will toward men. It’s foretold throughout the Old Testament, and in the book of Revelation it mentions six times in chapter 20 that there would be this kingdom that Christ would establish for a thousand years.

It says a thousand years, a thousand years, a thousand years. They will rule and reign with Christ a thousand years. It speaks of it six times in this one chapter. So we know that Christ will be here on the earth for a thousand years. Now it talks about just before the tribulation begins, rather than the thousand years begins, right, at the end of the tribulation period. Let me just back up here because the next event on God’s program is the Rapture.

And that’s when all of us who are believers who are living when Christ shouts as He comes back will be caught up to medium in the air. This is not the same thing as the Second Coming. The Second Coming is when Christ comes all the way down to the earth and stays here on the earth in a physical body, ruling over the earth for a thousand years. But at the rapture Christ only comes part way. He comes to the upper atmosphere, shouts, and all of us believers will be evacuated, and will not go through one second, not one minute, of the seven years of tribulation, which will be the darkest hours the human race will ever face.

I’m glad I’m leaving it the Rapture, but we will come back seven years later with Christ at the Second Coming. But this event, when Christ comes back seven years after the Rapture, is the event when all of the Old Testament saints and all the tribulation saints will get their resurrection bodies. That is called in Revelation chapter 20, the first resurrection. It says in verse 6, blessed and holy. Blessed means happy. Holy means righteous is he that hath part in the first resurrection.

Obviously we’re talking about the same. They’re going to be happy. Obviously to be with the Lord forever and they’re going to be righteous because of the righteousness of God that is imputed to the believer. When you trust Christ, you become holy in God’s sight. Physicianally, God sees you as though you have never sinned. I was amazed to find out that the Bible required to go to heaven, you’d have to be as righteous as God. None of us are. None of us could ever become that righteous by our works, by our deeds, by our efforts.

That’s why the Bible says it’s not based upon our works. It’s not based upon our deeds. It’s based upon the finished work of Jesus Christ as He substituted Himself in our place and took our sins upon Himself. And He paid for those sins in full by His death, burial, and resurrection, by His death and shed blood. And when you trust that He did that for you, God credits your account with His righteousness, and therefore you’re called holy or righteous, once you trust Christ.

those that are in the first resurrection will be given their resurrection body at the second coming of Christ. Now, let me back up a little bit, seven years earlier at the rapture, everyone in the church age which began at Pentecost and will end the rapture will get their resurrection body. So actually, I’m going to get my resurrection body seven years ahead of all of the Old Testament In other words, I’m going to get my resurrection body seven years before Noah will get his.

Seven years before Isaiah will get his or David will get his or Daniel or any of the Old Testament heroes. They will not get their resurrection bodies till the end of the tribulation period at what is called the first resurrection, but we of the church age are going to get our new bodies at the event of the Rapture. So when the Rapture happens, every one of us that have been saved from Pentecost and Tola Rapture are either by having already died of men with the Lord, yet our resurrection bodies as Christ comes back, or be alive and caught up and transformed into our new resurrection body on the way up as Christ shouts and we meet all of those who have previously died is believers of the church age in the atmosphere and there’s going to be this meeting in the year where all the believers of the church age will be in one place at one time given

our resurrection bodies to be forever with the Lord. Seven years later those of the Old Testament, those that are of the tribulation period will get their resurrection bodies and it tells us something here. It tells us that the seven years of tribulation are actually the last seven years of the Old Testament. They’re included with those who have died prior to Pentecost. All of the Old Testament saints are still waiting to get their resurrection bodies. They’re with the Lord. They’re present with Him right now.

But they do not have their resurrection bodies and they will not receive them until seven years after the Rapture. So I’m going to get my body, you’re going to get your body, if you’re a believer, that is, seven years before the Old Testament saints that we read about in our Bibles. Isn’t that going to be something? We get to beat them out a little bit. But then it says here in verse 5 of Revelation 20, the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

That talks about the unsaved dead. Now they’re very much alive. They’re in a place called Hades, they’re in the heart of the earth, they’re in a place of flaming torment, they are very conscious about their situation, and there’s nothing they can do about it. There is no second chance after you die, but they will have to wait until after the thousand years are over, and it tells us that during that thousand years Satan is going to be bound up.

He’ll be bound up down in the heart of the earth where all of the unbelievers are in Hades in flameth foreman waiting that day. And when Satan is loose he comes against Christ with a short battle and in verse 10 it says, the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast in the false prophet are and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever. So Satan is going to be cast into hell.

Now that’s the real hell he brought up out of Hades, cast into hell at the end of the thousand year rule of Christ. And then we learned over a little bit further that all of the unsaved of mankind, which are waiting right now in Hades in the heart of the earth. He says, In verse 14 and death and Hades. Now death refers to the body. They’ll be given new bodies and Hades refers here to the place where their souls are right now waiting in detention until Satan is cast into hell.

It says and death and Hades were cast into hell. Satan is cast into hell. It says, and death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire, this is the second death. So ultimately every unsaved person, everybody who dies without Christ will be cast into the eternal lake of fire. A lot of people don’t like to believe in hell. A lot of people don’t like to preach about hell or hear about hell, but let me just tell you this.

The Bible talks a lot about hell. In fact, Jesus spoke more about hell than He did about heaven. Why? Because He didn’t want you and me to go there. And because He didn’t want you and me to go to hell, Jesus left heaven, came to the earth, took on human flesh, went to the cross of Calvary, took your sins in mind, and paid for them in sinful at the cross was buried and rose again from the dead. And when you trust in His death, in your place, to pay for your sins, God saves you, and you will never, ever, ever go to hell if you trust Jesus Christ as Savior.

Let me go back to verse 6 the moment. It says, blessed and holy is he that have part of the first resurrection on such the second death as no power. Now we just learned here, the second death in verse 14 is to be cast into the everlasting hell, the everlasting lake of fire. And so the believer will never go to hell. The believer will never experience the second death. It says in Revelation 20 verse 6, on such the second death, have no power.

Wow, I’m never going to go to hell, and neither will you if you trust Christ as your Savior. But the unbeliever will, and that’s why we need to evangelize. That’s why we need to make sure our family members know Jesus as their Savior. I hope yours are all saved. I’m Dr. Englund, this is Bibleline. We’re going to take our callers in just a minute. The phone number here is 1-800-576-3771. Give us a call 1-800-576-3771. We’d love to hear from you.

And we’re going to take it off your question here or two, one or two. It says in rather rather Celeste in Huntsville, Texas calls in and she says, where in the Bible does it speak of the Rapture? Well, it speaks in a lot of places in the New Testament, it’s not in the Old Testament, but in 1 Thessalonians 4, 17 in particular. It talks about we which are alive and remain shall be caught up. Guess what? The word Rapture means caught up, and you can just insert it there if you like.

I’m glad that the English word Rapture does not occur because Because nobody knows what it means, you have to go to the dictionary and look it up. But it means caught up and it says those of us which are living and alive and remain unto the coming of Christ will be caught up to meet the Lord of the air. So that is the main passage. First Thessalonians 4, 13 through 18 in particular. So I hope that helps Celeste. And thank you so much for being patient.

we’ve been really unable to get to our offer questions. We’ve been so busy with so many callers here lately. We have Bill in Deerfield Beach, Florida, and he leaves this offer question. Does the Bible speak about suicide? And what happens to a person who commits suicide? And the answer is absolutely yes. The believer will never go to hell even if he commits suicide. That doesn’t mean you should commit suicide. But look at John 637. Jesus said, him that cometh to me, I will in no wise cast out.

I will in no wise cast out anyone that comes to me. And there’s no exception cause. It doesn’t say except for suicide. And by the way, there are those who have committed suicide, who are believers, and they went to heaven. Samson when he pushed the pillars down of that Philistine stadium. He brought down thousands of people to their death, but also himself. And that was an act of suicide, and Samson went to heaven. He’s one of the heroes of the Bible.

It’s not condoning suicide, but the Bible does teach it. Saul committed suicide. He fell on his own sword on the battlefield, and the Bible tells us that Saul would join Samuel, the prophet. And obviously Samuel was saved in so Saul and his sons all went to heaven and Saul had committed suicide. Well we’ll leave it at that. Certainly it’s not the infaribles. And the unparables in is the guy not having trusted Jesus Christ as Savior. We’re now going to go to Reginald in Tampa, Florida and Reginald welcome to my blend.

You are on the air. Good morning Dr. Langston, God bless. I got a question for you. It’s concerning origins of the Jewish tribes. Okay, now back in Genesis, they named the sons of Gomer. Okay, and one of the sons of Gomer is the first son that’s named Asikonaz. Now, what I was thinking, I was trying to look it up, are these people, did they convert to Judaism from the start? Did it was it by marriage or what? I mean, how did they become Jews?

I mean, because they were in Eastern Europe, whether Eastern European Jews, not that anything’s wrong with it, because God works in great ways. I just want to know how it all just gets connected. If you have an answer for me. Alright, well let’s go back to Abraham. Abraham lived in Iraq in the land of Ur. They’re in the Mesopotamia Valley. He was asked by God to move to the Promised Land, Israel, and by so doing he became the first Hebrew.

The word Hebrew means to cross over. And so he crossed over into the promised land. And so everybody that’s a descendant of Abraham in a technical sense is a Hebrew. His son was named Isaac. And then Abraham’s grandson was named Jacob. And Jacob’s name was changed to Israel, which means child of God. So technically the first Israelite was Jacob. Jacob’s name was changed to Israel. and everybody who is a true Israelite spiritually that is you can be physically the descendant of Jacob or Israel and not go to heaven.

You must become as Jacob was saved and become a true Israelite in the sense that you are born again and take on that new birth and become a child of God and will enter heaven. The Bible says in Romans 9 just because you’re the physical descendant of Jacob or Israel doesn’t mean that you are a true Israelite. It says those which are children of the flesh, these are not the children of God, but the children of the Promised Seed or Christ are counted as God’s seed and they’re the ones that will enter heaven.

So then we find that Jacob had twelve sons and they became the twelve sons of Jacob or Israel and became the twelve tribes. And Judah of course later became one of the very largest tribes and in the Babylonian captivity it is then that the name Jew which was a slang or a by word got applied to the whole nation of Israel. So that’s kind of the way it plays out and we know that after the flood of Noah, the sons of Noah actually became the fathers of all the people that are on the earth and we know he had three sons that were with him in the ark with his and they were Shem, Ham and Jacob and by these were the whole world over spread.

Verse 18 and 19 of Genesis chapter 9, it says, and the sons of Noah that went forth out of the ark were Shem and Ham and Japheth, and Ham is the father of Canaan. Verse 19, now these are the three sons of Noah, and of them was the whole earth overspread. But only those that were, now remember Abraham came along later, several hundred years later, that are descended of Abraham through Isaac and through Jacob and are really the children of Israel or the Jewish people.

Oh, okay. So the people that they’re talking about in the end days, it says like there will be those who say they’re in Jews and they are not. Well, it’s talking, the term there is really, you know, in those days the early Christians were Jews, but a true Jew is one who’s accepted his Messiah. the Bible had prophesied would come. In the book of Revelation, they are saying that they are a believer or Jew or a Christian. In reality, they are not.

Okay, thanks a lot, Don. Sure, welcome. Thank you, Reginald. We have now Gregory and he’s down in Miami. and we could just maybe get started. We may not get this question finished before the break. Before the break, go ahead Gregory. You’re on the air. Good morning Dr. Lassen. How are you doing? Good. Good. I have a quick question. It’s about the children of Israel. We know that Joshua and Kaleb were the only original, only other the original children of Israel were actually came when the promise lasts.

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We’re going to go back to. Gregory and Gregory’s in Miami and we were talking to him about Joshua and Caleb. They were the two of the 12 spies that Moses sent out that had the true report and they got to enter the promised land. The rest died in the wilderness. Okay. What was the question Gregory? First one is in reference to that. Wait, that accurate. That is not true. You know the the interesting thing is that the promised land was not a picture of the of heaven.

The Promised Land was a picture of victory in the Christian life. You see, the Promised Land, they had to go and conquer it. And that was a picture to us of the battles that we have as a Christian and that we need to have faith as a believer to have victory in our Christian life every day. Now we’re saved by faith and they obviously exhibited that faith of salvation by offering up the Passover Lamb in Egypt, which was a picture of Christ’s death and his shed blood at the cross of Calvary.

And because of that, by God’s grace, he delivered them out of Egypt across the Red Sea and drowned the Egyptian army as they tried to cross behind them. Now they were in the wilderness and could now have victory in their Christian life, but They murmured, they complained, and they showed no faith in believing the God that could save them from Egypt. Good, now also give them victory to Christian life. How many Christians do that way? They trust Christ as Savior, but they don’t believe that God could do anything after that.

And that’s the mistake that children of Israel made. So it doesn’t mean they weren’t saved. They were saved, but they didn’t have victory. They wandered in the wilderness for four years until they died out and what did they have to show forth? Nothing. They were in a desert and they had obviously the peaks of the barrenness of their Christian life and no rewards, whereas they could have entered into the land that was filled with milk and honey and all the wonderful things that God had in store for them to enjoy if they would only have believed God could give them victory over their enemies and take over the land.

Twelve spies went out. Two of them came back and said, hey, we can do it. We can take them. We’ve got a great guy who delivered us from Egypt. And let’s go. And the other 10 spies gave a false report, said, no, there’s no possible way. These guys are too big. Their cities are too fortified. Their walls go red up to heaven itself. And we might as well just sit here and quit. And obviously, the people followed the hearing of that false report.

And God said, OK, I’ll let you wander here till you die. I’ll take the next generation to victory into the promised land in Joshua and led them in But okay, so you say it because again, we don’t I don’t have the lands we would like but it appears that the Bible hints that that was the case that all of those that fled were those who had applied the blood and I’ll just give you a verse and you can just Think about it for yourself, but in first Corinthians chapter 10 It says more over brethren first Corinthians 10 verse 1 More over, brethren, I would not, that you should be ignorant, that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea, and all did eat the same spiritual meat, and did all drink the same

spiritual drink, for they drank of that spiritual rock that fell upon them, and that rock was Christ. It seems to me all tells me that all of these people came in a meeting were saved, redeemed and they drank. Notice it says of that spiritual rock that followed up in that rockless Christ. I agree with you. My second question. Job one, six, it gives the reference of the sons of God. If it’s not angels, are there any other references in the Bible that refers to the sons of God as angels?

Or can we exclude? that from as a possibility that the sons of God, some thousands of scripture is reference to the angels of God. That’s a good question and we can exclude it forever. Hebrew… Hebrews 1-5, Gregory says… The God never called an angel his son. It never called an angel his son. Now that’s a problem for the Joel’s Witnesses because they say that Christ is Michael the Archangel. And yet he’s also called the Son of God. He can’t be both.

They need to make up their mind and obviously they’ve made the wrong choice because they reject him as God and flesh and they think he’s a created being called Michael the Archangel. Well obviously they’re terribly wrong. But no, the sons of God, they are believers. They were the believers coming together to worship the Lord. It was here on the earth and they came to worship and Satan was observing all of that. And God asked Satan, wherever you’ve been. And he said, from roaming through and fro throughout the whole earth.

And he was here to observe these believers. But then what happened in heaven? Did he see they not watch in heaven? They did not happen in heaven. No, it didn’t happen in heaven. Heaven here on the earth. It was always a place where believers would meet with the Lord. You know we find Cain and Abel for example. They brought an offering to the Lord. That means there was a specific place appointed where they would come to meet and worship the Lord and bring their offering.

And throughout the Bible it’s been that way. And since Jesus was here, now we can worship Him wherever we are because our bodies become this temple and we could worship him in spirit and truth wherever we are here on this earth in our bodies. But prior to Calvary, there was a specific place. They would go to Jerusalem or they went in the wilderness to the tabernacle or in the case of Job there, they went to a particular place to worship the Lord.

Oh, it will. That’s a very insightful answer. I’m going to consider it. I’m going to do some research. That’s a very good answer. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much, Gregory. Gregory calling in from Miami, Florida. We are now going Let me just get one more of these off-air when I’m trying to knock them down. We have Marilyn in Evansville, Indiana. We’re glad to have you folks up there listening on the radio now in Indiana. She says, what is the difference between conscience and condemnation?

Well your conscience is like an alarm system that God has given you that will sound an alarm when something isn’t quite right. You know when you do something wrong, your conscience bothers you. And by the way, the Bible says you can program your conscience to be very sensitive to the things of God. And you can also, it says in 1st Timothy chapter 4, if you depart from God’s Word and listen to seduce these spirits and doctrines of demons, You can sear your conscience.

It says like with a hot iron so that it’s not sensitive. It doesn’t give off any signals. We have a lot of people today that are in the bad doctrine and don’t even know that they’re in bad doctrine because their conscience is not sounding a warning. And there are a number of verses that tell us, watch out. Don’t let your conscience become dead to the sensitivity it should have. The way you keep your conscience alive and working for you is to stay in the Bible.

And then when you violate anything the Bible teaches, that conscience sends a signal. Condomnation of course is the judgment that follows when you don’t listen to your conscience and you don’t listen to scripture and you disobey the word. We’re not going to Tommy in Tampa and Tommy welcome to Bibleline You’re On The Earth. You just referred to E-Boodle Chapter 1, verse 5. That’s right. That was referring only to Jesus Christ, the Biggatton. The only Biggatton. But as for the angels, they were all with sons of God.

And even if you go to your 38, there was a time when all, and I like you when you say that all is all, all the songs of God were worshiping Him, were in harmony, were in unison. And that could only be happening in heaven. And that’s when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, let me just stop you for a moment because Job 38 is not talking about angels. If you read the context there in the story of Job is talking about the stars, it talks about how these stars at the creation sang.

And today we know that stars emit sounds as well as light. We have radio telescopes that pick up the sounds from stars in space. And they each have their own unique sounds that they emit. And if you read the verse carefully, it says in Job chapter 38. It says here, When the Morning Stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy. Now, if you read further in the context later in the chapter, it says here in verse 31, Canstow, By the sweet influence of flades or loose the bands of Orion.

This is talking about star systems and constellations. Verse 32 says, can’t thou bring forth Masseroth in his season? Or can’t thou guide Arcturus with his sons? The sons there are the stars in that constellation group. And so the stars sang, and these are the sons of different star groups and of different galaxies, and they’re around to the 30 days. never referring to an angel and i believe that uh… many people have mistaken job uh… thirty eight seven for angels when it’s written about the stars themselves sing today we know it’s a scientific thing people able one of people we will run into a new talking about christ and all the question that the only the capital of god dot that mean uh…

that’s what not there that’s got himself on and uh… that’s what the different is that uh… well i’d like to get the different with you. There’s talking about Jesus, of course, being the begotten son of God. But if you notice what it says here, it says, under which of the angels did God say at any time, Thou art my Son. That is never happened. God has never, ever, ever called an angel his Son. In fact, if you read Hebrews very carefully, it tells us that we as believers are made higher than the angels.

And in 1st time it says, behold what men are of love the Father of the Son of God, that we should be called the sons of God. Angels were never called the sons of God, and the angels in creation were higher than us, but when we get the new birth and are born again, we become higher than the angels. And the angels will be ministering spirits to us according to Hebrews chapter 1 in verse 14. They will forever ministered to us in heaven were higher than they in position because of the new birth but God never called an angel his son.

We sure thank you for that call and we’re now going to go to our next caller and that’s Adam in Denver, Colorado. Adam, welcome to my blind year on the year from Denver, Colorado. Hey, thank you Pastor. I do have a question yesterday. My mother came over and he worked. We’re discussing the Bible and she, the death came up and she had told me that, you know, that when we die, we’re just sleeping. And I know this is a teaching that is from my aunt that told her and she practices with the way international.

And I know in scripture that it says when you’re absent from the body, present with the Lord. And I also do understand that there are some references about, you know, Jesus saying that you can actually find the little girl is that I am sure and what we’re talking about here is the body sleeps but the soul does not sleep and the Seventh-day Adventist teach soul sleep and the way international teaches soul sleep is a bunch of groups that do and the Bible talks about the body sleeping till the resurrection but the soul does not sleep and it’s clear from Luke 16 beginning in verse 19 to the end you have two men who die one saved one lost and and they’re both conscious the moment after death.

One is in flame and torment in the heart of the earth and the other is in paradise, Lazarus the beggar, and they’re both able to recall their past, they’re able, they’re fully aware of the circumstances that surround them and they’re able to have an intelligent conversation. And Abraham reminds this man, who was obviously very conscious and very awake, that there was no second chance, that it was unfortunate that he died without Christ, but now he was in Hades and eventually would be cast into hell.

So the body sleeps, but the soul doesn’t. And that’s the difference. And so when I die, it is said that my body sleeps and I won’t get a new body until the rapture and that’s when my body is awakened and I get a brand new body which will be with the Lord forever. But my soul . . . . . . . . . As you just said a moment ago, is absent from the body, present with the Lord, 2 Corinthians 5, verse 8.

What a great verse, 2 Corinthians 5, 8, absent from the body, present with the Lord. And I hope that helps you there. What was this? It was in what was that? It was 16 beginning at verse 19 and you have two men there that are very conscious right after death and certainly they weren’t asleep and the soul doesn’t sleep but the body does sleep till the resurrection. Thank you so much Dr. Administrator. Also it’s interesting in Psalm 16 it talks about this David the prophet said that his body would sleep but his soul was conscious that christ would uh…

would uh… come for him and he knew that christ would die and he buried and rise again from the dead and it’s a fascinating passage we’re not going to my and again in this time we have uh… and he on the line and and he welcomed a bible on your own ear all that they have to have to do with us i needed those scriptures two weeks ago without part of the event i got a right note that those people What I just wanted to mention, that was beautiful.

I really use you when you were speaking about the son of God. That is something that has been confusing people for years. I believe that’s why Paul wrote what he wrote in Hebrews because even then, you know, God never called the angels his sons, but people, that’s what they refer to the angels as. But I’m so glad you broke that down. That’s a thing. There’s a lot of confusion out there. I know some people think that when we die, we become angels.

And that’s another kind of teaching. I heard somebody say, my husband Bob died. Is he an angel now? No. If Bob was a believer, then he’s a son of God. But we don’t become angels. And angels don’t become men. No. So, well, thank you, Pastor Hank, for that. I got to write those scriptures and you gave about the body being sleep with the soul. I’m going to write those down and I’m going to remember to pray on those. I’m going to run to that day brother again.

I’m going to give them those scriptures. that’s great if you don’t let me just say that That’s great. uh… the uh… internet is so good you go back and listen to this program again and i think you can get it you can go back and you can review it you can stop me back me up pause me fast-forward me and you can get it all written down not when you have a chance to get near your computer later in the day i sure will thank you for a okay and if you think you for that call from uh…

miami uh… florida let me give you another We’ll take another off-air question here. We have David in St. Petersburg and he said my father would like to know How after someone has trusted in Jesus as Savior? That if they stopped trusting in him how they could still be saved? Well, it’s interesting that the Bible says that salvation is Something that occurs by an act of faith at the moment you trust Christ and it’s irreversible So, once you trust Christ, it’s not my continuous faith.

It’s not a continuing process where you keep on keeping on, or you keep on believing. And then if you keep on believing and never cease to believe that you will then be safe, that is not the case. But let me give you a dynamite verse in 2 Timothy, chapter 2. It says in verse 13, If we believe not, yet God, abideth faithful, he cannot deny himself. So even if you stop believing, once you become saved, you’re stuck. You have to go to heaven whether you like it or not.

Let me go back to John 637. You always look to the simple verses and interpret difficult verses in the light of those clear ones. In John 637, Jesus said, Him that cometh to me, I will in no wise cast out. Again, no exception clause. It doesn’t say, except you commit suicide, or it doesn’t say, except you stop believing, or except you stop going to church, or except you backslide. It doesn’t say that. It says, Him that cometh to me, I will in no wise cast out.

But even better than that is verse 39. He says, this is the Father’s will, which has sent me, that of all of which have given me, I should lose none. What if he had said he was going to lose the first dozen? Or just one? All of our lives would have to wonder, well, maybe we’re the one that he’s going to lose. But if one person were ever lost after they became saved, Jesus would be a liar. But write that verse down.

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