Bibleline Radio Show – 2008-12-22

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We’re going to go to the Bible and we’re going to go back to Genesis This is the earliest promise. of the coming of Jesus Christ. And this is right there when Adam and Eve had sinned. God pronounces this solution as to what would happen one day. He says in verse 15, I will put imnity between the, that Satan and the woman, that’s Eve, between thy seed, that’s that’s probably the antichrist, the seed of the antichrist, or of Satan rather, and her seed, the seed of the woman, which is probably a veiled reference to the virgin birth.

Usually the seed is obviously passed on through the man, but here it talks about a woman having seed without a man, probably referring to the virgin birth for sure, is talking about Jesus. Then in the last part of the verse it has the two comings of Christ. It says, it that is the seat of the woman or Jesus would bruise thy head, which speaks about Christ’s victory over the devil and how ultimately Christ will take away his power and authority and rule over the earth and on into eternity.

Then balconies say, and thou Satan shall bruise his heel. That’s the first coming. The other is the second coming of Christ. And the bruising of Christ’s heel is probably a veiled reference to the crucifixion. That’s right. In other words, the only death we know of where the heel of the victim is bruised is crucifixion. A person being crucified has to push up on his heel because they can’t breathe, they can exhale, but they can’t inhale without pushing up then fill their lungs and then slump down and exhale.

And so ultimately a person being crucified dies of suffocation. That’s right. In fact, you know, when the religious leaders wanted to get the bodies off the cross because the Passover was approaching at 6 p.m. They sent the soldiers out and they broke the legs of the two thieves. They used something like a baseball bat and they would swing it across their knees and crack their legs and then they would slump down, not able to push up anymore. They would quickly die.

When they came to the the body of Christ, they found he was already dead. And so they did not break a bone in the body of Christ. Isn’t that amazing? Because it says there in John 19, 35 that the Scripture might be fulfilled that they would not break a bone in the body of the Messiah. That had been predicted a thousand years earlier in the Psalms and look at how literally that was filled. When they came to speed up the crucifixion, Christ was already dead.

They didn’t break his bones, but they broke the legs of the two thieves. And so obviously we know that a person being crucified has their healed bruised from pushing up every time they take a breath. And we find here that it talks about Satan would bruise the heel of Christ, referring to the crucifixion in the first coming, and that Christ, the seed of the woman, would bruise the head of Satan. That is victory over Satan at the second coming when Christ takes Satan and is bound in the bottomless pit and ultimately after the thousand year reign of Christ is cast into the everlasting lake of fire.

Satan knows now from this point on that a woman is going to have a child and that child would ultimately be his downfall. So throughout the Bible we see an attack upon the lineage of Christ. And we find right from the get-go when Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel. Abel probably was the one through whom the Messiah would come and what did Satan do? Satan used Cain to kill Abel. I believe for the purpose of preventing the baby, the Messiah from coming into the world.

That’s right. So that murder was inspired by Satan. How do we know? Well, in 1 John 3 15, it says that Satan… He was acting probably under the instructions from the devil to kill his brother. Of course God replaced Abel with Seth and he became the one in the lineage of Christ. But you could really spend an incredible amount of time just following the lineage of Christ and seeing the attacks of Satan upon the line to prevent it. And when Christ was born, we know that Satan was sitting there ready to kill that baby as soon as it was born into this world.

In the book of Revelation, it tells us about a man-child, which is the Lord Jesus Christ, who would one day rule over the earth as a king over the entire earth. And we find here that it tells us in Revelation 12 in verse 4 that the dragon, which is identified here as Satan stood before the woman, that’s the nation of Israel, Revelation 12 verse 4, which was ready to be delivered for to devour her child, that’s Christ, as soon as it was born.

You know, when you get your Christmas cards, you don’t generally see what I’m going to depict now. But if you were in the stable where the baby was lying in a manger and there’s Mary and Joseph, that stable was probably filled with Satan’s demons and Satan was present. He wanted to kill that baby. And obviously he was not able to do so. We know that he tried to use Herod to kill that baby. And Herod killed every baby two years old and under in Bethlehem and all the surrounding cities in order to eliminate this child.

Of course, God had warned Joseph to flee to Egypt because Herod would try to do that. And of course they escaped the hand of Herod and stayed in Egypt until Herod died and then they came back to Israel. But we find that definitely Satan was there. And so if you can just imagine a Christmas card and there’s the stable and it’s filled with demons. Well that’s not the picture you normally get, but let me tell you, read Revelation 12, 4, it says, the dragon stood before Israel, which was ready to be delivered for the devour her child as soon as it was born.

So when Christ was born, let me tell you, the demons were present. Satan was present. He wanted to kill this child, and there were numerous attempts throughout the life of Christ to get rid of this baby. This one that would ultimately defeat Satan, and of course in the first coming, Satan would bruise his heel, speaking of the crucifixion at the cross of Calvary. You know Jesus died for you and for me, and he brought about our salvation through his death and shed blood at the cross of Calvary.

He died to pay for your sins and mine, and he paid for our sin debt and full, our past sins, our present sins, and our future sins. That’s right, when Christ died, you weren’t even born. All of your sins were future, and He paid for all of them. And when we simply come to Him, trusting that He fully died and paid our sin debt in full by His death and shed blood was buried and rose again from the dead.

God saved you. Isn’t that great? And that is, of course, the best news that you’re ever going to hear. I didn’t hear that message explained to me till I was 18. Are you believing that? I was raised in church. I was confirmed and baptized and homogenized and pasteurized and capsized and Simonized and you name it. I went through it. But you know, I never knew how to go to heaven. Nobody ever told me that I had to personally trust that Jesus Christ died for me.

And that if I would trust Him as my Savior, I would not perish because He perished in my place. But I would have everlasting life. Boy, that’s good news. And I hope that you have trusted Christ as your Savior. If you haven’t, you’ve missed the meaning of Christmas because it’s all about Christ. It’s all about the gift of eternal life that’s offered through Christ to all that would believe on Him. I’m Dr. Ankermsen from this is By Blind. We’ve got lots of callers waiting.

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Right now we’re going to go to John and he’s in Brandon, Florida and John, welcome to Bibleline. morning doctor how are you good uh… a while back i heard you talk about you to scare it and he really would never stay and then i read to uh… not to twenty i believe twenty seven where he did repent after he gave the coin back now well what’s the stuff for a minute because that is uniquely one of the different words from the Greek, this translated repent that means sorrow or regret.

And it’s not the main word that is used. And so it never tells us that Judas changed his mind. He simply regretted what he had done and wanted to take that money and take it back to the priest. But there’s no record that he ever did change his mind and get saved. In fact, the Bible tells us that Judas went to his own place, which is, he’s also called the Son of He went to hell, but it was because he never did trust the Lord and he did regret, but he didn’t trust the Lord as a Savior He did so it does say in the Bible that he did go to hell Yeah, if you read Acts chapter 1 it talks about him going to a special place probably the the heart of the earth in Hades or shield There is what is called the bottle of his pit.

That’s where Satan will be bound during the Millennial Kingdom and and a chain will be put about him and he’ll be peddle locked in there until the thousand Uranus up. Apparently that’s exactly where Judas went. You can see that in Acts chapter 1. I think let’s see the exact reference is verse 25 of Acts chapter 1 you’ll see that reference. Okay. Okay John. Great. Thank you for that. And Judas never was a believer in John 6, Jesus says in verse 64, that he knew from the beginning who they were that believed not and who should betray him and he identifies Judas there as an unbeliever.

And interesting as in John 13 also says that all the disciples were clean except for one that was Judas. When Peter spoke for all the apostles and said, we believe that thou art the Christ, son of the living God and you have the words of eternal life. Jesus had to step in and correct them and said not all of you, one of you is a devil and he was referring to Judas. So 11 were saved but Judas was never saved.

We have Robert down in Pompano Beach Florida and Robert welcome to Bible Eye. Hey Mary Christmas, Dr. Lynch. Thank you for taking my call. I was trying to witness someone yesterday about becoming saved and they came up with a very interesting passage in the Bible that I had not thought much on. And it’s found in Luke chapter 10 verses 25 to 37. I was hoping I couldn’t really answer them. Although it sounds like the lawyer that is talking to Christ is attempting Christ and he sounds very arrogant, but I couldn’t explain the passage.

was hoping you could help me with it. Well what is happening here is this man was of course trying to tempt Christ but he also was asking what he had to do to be saved. Now the law in the Old Testament according to Galatians 3 was given to show us that we have broken it and are in need of a Savior. It says in Galatians 3 24 the law is a schoolmaster to bring us under Christ that we might be justified by faith.

So in other words, as somebody said, the law is like a mirror. You can look into a mirror and see that your face is dirty, but then you don’t clean your face with the mirror. You reach down and get some soap and use water and you lather up and wash your face. And so the mirror can’t cleanse you any more than the law and yet the law shows us like the mirror that we have sinned and we’ve come short of the Lord of God.

Christ did exactly that. This young man obviously was self-righteous and deceived and he said as Christ named some of the commandments, all of these things have I done from my youth up. Obviously he was trying to justify himself but he was not saved. And so some people who don’t read very carefully include that you can be saved by works. Other passages are quite clear that no one has ever Spept the Ten Commandments. And if you look for example at John 7, Jesus says in verse 19, did not Moses give you the law.

And yet, none of you have kept the law. Nobody has. Galatians 2, 16, a memorized that is a brand new believer. It’s kind of a tough verse to memorize. But it’s so wonderful it says, knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law. But by faith in Jesus Christ, Peter is the one that Paul is talking to you there. He says, Peter, even we have trusted in Christ that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Relations to 16. And of course, the whole book of Galicians deals with the issue of the law being unable to save anyone because no one has ever been able to keep it except for Christ who is God. And he was sinless. And of course, this rich young ruler went away, apparently, never coming to know Christ as his Savior, which, you know, not everybody we talk to will trust the Lord. And Christ didn’t have everybody that he talked to receive him as Savior either, including this fellow.

And of course, Jude is one of his own disciples. We now have Jim in Lakeland, Florida, and Jim, welcome to Bibleline You’re On The Earth. Thank you, brother. How are you doing? Good. I heard a very famous minister, a preacher say something some time ago and I’ve always wondered about it since and I thought I would kind of ask the person so far who has steered me straight in many, many areas. and it kind of goes along with one of the things that you said in the opening your opening remarks this individual said that uh…

we have we have already been forgiven for all of our sense past president future we do need to go to him to confess that we’ve done it because confession means that we agree with god that uh… the action that uh… i’ve committed is sinful well uh… Most of that is absolutely correct, but first John 1 9 is the verse about a believer in their walk, confessing their sin, and the object there, or the purpose of that, is for forgiveness in our daily walk.

As far as salvation was forgiven forever, one we trust Christ as Savior, and our sins are forgotten, forgiven, and will never come up against us again as far as going to heaven. But it says in 1 John 1 9, if we confess our sins, He is faithful, God is faithful and just to forgive us our sins. So He forgives those that we name to Him. And then it says, and cleanses us from all unrighteousness. This is in the context of fellowship in our walk with Christ.

It says if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, then we have fellowship with Him. And so walking in the light means that when we sin, and this is not necessarily something we do at the end of the day, fine, but the thought there is that as we walk, as we sin, moment by moment throughout the day, if we recognize that we’ve done something that is wrong, we ought to confess it right there, and it allows us to continue in fellowship with the Lord in our walk.

It has nothing to do with our salvation. Okay, but the answer is no. We need to confess it and then thank God that He’s already forgiven us. I like Ephesians 4.30. It talks about us being kind-hearted, one to another, forgiving others, even as Christ has already forgiven us. So we’re already forgiven. But we need to acknowledge that all the time. I think it’s great for us to recognize that. And if we sin, it does break fellowship, not our relationship, but our fellowship with the Lord, our walk, our intimacy and so we need to confess it.

That’s good. Thank you. Okay, I hope that helps. Thank you, Jim, and that was Jim over in Lake Wales, Florida. Debbie in Chesterfield, Virginia says, comment on the Seeker Church. I believe I did answer this the other day, but it says the Church Growth Movement. Is there any scriptural support for this? And this whole movement, I believe, is not really biblically based. You know the Bible talks about every individual believer is commissioned to take the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ to their family, to their friends, to their neighbors.

And obviously… We, each of us individually, have been commissioned. That’s the great commission to go out and tell the world about Christ. This modern movement is really all about church growth, not really getting people saved. In fact, somebody who recently attended one of the classes on this said, you don’t have to worry about witnessing, they were told, you just bring them to church. So basically this whole movement is about getting people out to church, then it’s the church’s responsibility, and that’s really not technically true.

And you better hope that your pastor gives an outright, or even if you’re brought to the church, they may be deceived and not be saved. And so it’s important that we know what the gospel is, that we give a clear presentation to those that are lost to make sure that they do get saved. This is Bibleline, and we’re coming up on our break. We do have another half hour to go. We hope that you’ll call in if you have a question and we hope you’re enjoying the broadcast.

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We live from Tampa, Florida from our studios here at the Calvary Community Church. We just love the season. It’s a great opportunity for us to evangelize and tell us about Christ. We had people get saved in our morning service. We had people get saved in our evening children’s program service and we hear about people getting saved every day, not only through the radio and television, but through our listeners who tell us about Christ. listeners who tell us that they are evangelizing their friends and leading them to Christ.

And so we’re excited about creating a little spark there because we believe that you and I as believers are responsible to carry the gospel to those that are lost. And we have a number of tools here at Bibleline in our resource center that you can order on the internet if you go to Bibleline Ministries.org. Then you can also order over the phone. You can call and have a send your resource list or sheet and you can have that by your side.

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Let me tell you, many of the notes are not even written by Dr. Schofield yet they call it the Schofield Reference Bible. Many of those older notes have been watered down and rewritten and they just don’t have the punch, the clarity that the old Schofield does. We carry only the old Scofield because we believe it’s superior and that’s available if you want to order that through the website or by calling in and ordering. We have that $100 Christmas special that will help you.

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We know that one lady came by who had a cleaning service and she had 23 clients. She bought 23 of these, how permanent is your salvation CDs in order to evangelize her clients. Isn’t that great? What a wonderful thing to see people reaching out with the gospel and here she’s doing it in the workplace with the people that she is employed by the homes that she Cleanse and I thought how wonderful that was a blessing to me to see people concerned to want to get the gospel And we had a lady last night yet for she needed four more She constantly gives them out and wanted four more to give out because she knows that they work And she had four people in mind that she wanted to give this out before Christmas So they might really know what Christmas is all about.

It’s all about Jesus. We’re going to hear the phone lines again. We have lots of affairs. We’ll try to get to them. But we have Lindsey in St. Petersburg and Lindsey, welcome to Bibleline Year on the Year. Hello, Dr. Lindstrom. Good morning. My question is about the responsibility of elders and deacons and pastors in scripture. And if I can just tell you why I’m asking, I belong to a non-denominational church. And in our church, we have, of course, a chain of commands.

And first, the chain of command is God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. And then our pastor, and then we have ministry leaders. We don’t actually have, officially, elders or deacons in our church. And so, you know, our pastor is completely in control and his accountability is only to God. And I just wondered if that is scriptural. I mean, if you’re supposed to be able. I know that in Acts 15, I think, and 7, it talks about how the leaders and the elders all got together to discuss certain actions that were the congregation were doing.

And I don’t know if that happens at my church. It’s just our pastor makes a decision and we just have to follow it. Of course, as long as I, for myself, I study to show myself approved, but I don’t always agree. Isn’t that, is my question makes sense? Yeah, well it sure does. And you know that in the early church you see always it mentions elders or more than one that was in leadership. I know we have elders and deacons in my church here and we meet regularly and what we like to do is to have our elders in harmony and vote unanimous for things that we want to do and if there’s somebody who has a hesitation we generally just say let’s wait on it until we all are in agreement because we want our leaders to be in agreement but we have a sheet

or an article that I’ve written. It’s on the internet, if you go to the internet to BibleLineMinistries.org and click on Dr. Lynch from his articles, you can download the requirements for elders and deacons that have a sheet on that, or we can mail it to you if you call our 800 number and ask our operators to send that sheet out to you. You can do that, but you’ll find, if you read Titus chapter one, or verse Timothy chapter three, Those chapters give about 20 requirements for those that are elders and deacons.

And generally, I’ve never seen any place in the New Testament where a church just had one elder. There was always more than one. And of course, there’s the pastor teacher who is an elder. But then there are other elders and it’s kind of nice to have an agreement at the a headship of the church and the leadership that the people could look to. And certainly if something goes array that they can to guide the ship when the ship is maybe going through a storm.

So I think that definitely that you should have elders and deacons in a church. That’s the New Testament policy or the way it was established. And you see it in the book of Acts chapter six, as you just mentioned, where the apostles got together and said we needed to add people that would be deacons that would carry out some of the administration of the duties within the church so that the apostles could continue to carry their focus which was the ministry of the word and prayer.

Right, and I have to tell you that we do have ministry leaders and their men ministry leaders on their ministers, but it’s not equality. The pastor is in charge. He’s the head of our church and he’s in charge. You understand what I mean? Like there’s only one person who’s completely in charge and then he has the ministry leaders who answer to him. So I don’t think there’s any voting going on. It’s the thing that’s brought to us and this is what we’re gonna do and then everybody just does what we’re talking about.

You have a written. Whatever reason it just doesn’t fit right. You have a written constitution that outlines who has the power. Obviously, in the Bible, the elders were responsible for the spiritual direction of the church and the spiritual purity of the church and so on. And then the deacons were to take care of the other things. actually the word deacon means table waiter and they were to carry out the other responsibilities of the physical needs of the church, not only the individuals but perhaps the properties and the grounds and the taking of the offerings and other things like that.

I’m trying to think of a good book on that. I think there is a book that does a good job on that, but I can’t think of it right now off my head. But I would certainly read those two chapters at least and give you a little bit full understanding. might look to see if your church has any flowchart that includes these others, but if they’re not elected people and they’re just hired by the pastor and totally under his control, that’s a different ballgame.

That’s not the same thing as others and meetings. We do have a flowchart that again the people who fall underneath the pastor and his wife, because of being father son, Holy Spirit is the beginning of the flowchart, then our pastor, the leaders of ministries, men leaders of ministries and their spouses, but they were selected by the pastor. They do not have any equality whatsoever with the pastor. He makes the decisions and we, and then they take care of us, just like you said, they do kind of follow the role of deacons and elders except our pastor is over them.

And it’s clear that no questions are asked or, you know, he’s in charge. And that’s the part that’s scary because I’m going to read what you’ve Titus and part Timothy and your article. Well, somebody does have to delete, but they also need to be accountable. Right, that’s it. Yeah, you’re not accountable to any. I mean, we all are accountable to Christ, but it’s so easy when he’s not physical to be led astray. And we may hear another spirit opposed to the Holy Spirit.

Right. Well, I’ll pray for you and pray that you can come to an understanding what the Scripture teaches and make your decisions based on that. Thank you very much. That was Lindsey in St. Petersburg. We’re now going to Jason in Indian Rocks Beach. And that’s here in Florida. Welcome, Jason, to Bible One. Hi. Good morning. Good morning. How are you? Good. I just want to thank you so much for your ministry. I’ve learned a lot about salvation and have just had a joy in hearing all that you’ve shared about salvation.

I do have a question regarding Galatians 519. And I was just curious of your thoughts on that. And then also my second part question was my aunt recently asked me about Benny Hinn. And I just was wondering your thoughts on him. All right. Well, in Galatians 519, it’s talking here about the works of the flesh. This is talking about a believer and the struggle that every believer has with their two natures. And it says in verse 17 that the flesh, that’s the flesh nature inherited from Adam, lusteth against the spirit, which refers to the birth of the spirit, the new birth, and the spirit against the flesh.

So they, as it says here as the verse continues, these are contrary to the one to the other. So the flesh doesn’t want to please God necessarily, but the spirit does want to please the Lord. And so it says here it causes a conflict so that you cannot do the things that you would. So the secret is in verse 16 that we need to choose to walk in the Spirit. That means to walk in obedience to the Spirit of God who is the author of scripture who guides our steps through the word of God.

And then it says you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh. The lusts of the flesh never go away, but if you cater to or submit to the new birth or the spirit nature, then you wind up not fulfilling the lust of the flesh nature and that’s the key to having victory. Now, if you walk in the flesh, then it tells us in verse 19, 20, and 21, these are the kind of things you’re going to have in your life, which obviously hopefully we wouldn’t want have, adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, invings, murders, drunkenness, revelings and so on.

And it says, obviously these are the results of walking or living in the flesh and a Christian can do that. And it’s saying that you don’t want to do that because that is what causes the loss to be condemned if they die without Christ. But verse 22 says, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance against such there is no law. So if you are going to walk in the Spirit as verse 16 says, then the fruit that you’ll have is the fruit that the Spirit will manifest in your life.

And everybody I think would like to have joy, they’d like to have peace, they’d like to have patience and all those things. So basically, if I stop following the scriptures and walk just after whatever my flesh desires. The consequences are described in verses 19 or 23 for any believer. And obviously some of the greats of the Bible know God drunk because he obviously was following the flesh right after the flood and got drunk and the consequences were great. And also David committed adultery with Bathsheba and murdered her husband, Uriah.

And so those were believers who committed Dax. And the list goes on. The Bible doesn’t hide the sins of the believers. But there you see many that were walking in the flesh at least at those times in their life. So at that point, I mean, if you’re a believer and you’re entertaining these things. Well you’re still saved. Then you’re going to suffer the loss of reward. You’re going to incur God’s chasting or discipline upon your life. You’ll stand just as good of Christ and give an account and be embarrassed and suffer loss of reward for eternity for it.

And so the consequences are great. But as a believer, we need to walk in the Spirit. Is this saying you will not inherit the kingdom of God? No, don’t believe. No, it’s saying that that is true of those who don’t know Christ. They will not because they’ll stand before God and have to be cast to help because of those things. We who are believers… What is it like to live in the United States? It is a little bit late, it is verse 24.

Our flesh has been crucified with Christ, and therefore we are not going to be cast into hell. We will never experience the second death, we will never go to hell as a believer. But he is warning us here that what kind of life do you want to have? Once you are a believer you have a choice of how you want to live that life and lifestyle. And there are some believers who choose to be rebellious just like if you’re a parent, your child can be rebellious and not follow your instructions.

And that makes it difficult for the parent and also makes it for a miserable child too. And God wants us to be happy and He wants to discipline us so that we might receive the rewards and the benefits and the blessings and the fruit of the Spirit in our lives as Christians. So it doesn’t say, in fact, the passage in 1 Corinthians 6, you might write this down as a parallel passage, verses 9 through 11, it lists that same list of sins, and then it says and such were some of you, but you are washed, you are justified, you are sanctified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

So it tells us that the believer has been washed or cleansed, and we will not have the consequences that the lost will have, who will not go to heaven, who will not inherit the Kingdom of God, because they are standing before God in their sin, whereas we will stand before God in Christ having our sins forgiven. That’s a great cross-reference there. It says, you have been washed. You have been, although they were in those categories, they had been washed, justified, sanctified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the spirit of our God.

And the appeal then to serve the Lord in that chapter goes on down to verse 19 and 20 where it says, what don’t you realize that your body now is the temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you and you’re bought with a price, therefore glorify God in your body and your spirit which you’re his. So we belong to the Lord and we should live to please him because he gave his life so that we might live. So the appeal is now to live for Christ because of what he did for us, because of our wonderful future that’s ahead after death when we go to be with the Lord.

But it’s not a threat that we’re gonna go to hell. We’ve been washed, we’ve been justified, we’ve been sanctified. And now we need to recognize that our bodies are his temple and we obviously grieve the Lord whenever we use our bodies in a way that does not glorify him. but simply is feeding our flesh. So now it’s living out of a heart of obedience as opposed to what can I get away with as a Christian. Exactly. Yeah. All right.

Well Jason, thanks for the call. Thank you, sir. And I just might ask me a question about Benny Hinn and I didn’t have a lot to give back to him after I met. Well Benny Hinn is obviously far off from the scriptures. We have a book here written by Hank Hinnograph in a resource center called Christianity in What is it? Crises. And that one details a lot of things. He obviously is saying a lot of things that he just makes up as he goes along.

He says, and the quotes are all in this book, in fact there’s also a seed he can get that has the quotes right off of his programs, but he says that Adam and Eve, for example, before the fall could fly to the moon. They could swim under the sea without gills or without scuba equipment. That a whole lot of just real absolutely craziness. He believes that Trinity is actually nine, not three. And he believes that each member of the Godhead is also a Trinity.

So there’s actually nine members of the Godhead, not three. He has some really strange beliefs. His gospel is not right and so i believe he’s a false prophet well thank you for that i can share that with her caright thank you doctor lance your welcome jason and thank you for calling in from indian rocks beach we have nathan down in braidenton florida and nathan welcome to bible and you’re on the air i good morning i i comment quick comment and a question please i’d in regard to uh…

whether or not we as christian forgiveness if in fact we do send a transgressed against his law uh… or against his word uh… these almost david who uh… was a man after godson heart in thomas twenty five and eighteen I’m going to ask God specifically to forgive him for having sent against him and of course in several other places as well. And then in Matthew 6 and 12 Jesus himself taught us to and to give others forgiveness as they ask it of us.

And then of course in Matthew 7 and 7 we read ask and it shall be given seek and you shall find knocking shall be opened under you. And so you know I would use the simple example that if my son wrecked my car last night and came to me and just and said, hey, that I wrecked your car. That wouldn’t be quite enough for me to get that he were guilty and convicted of his sins and sorry for his sins and his own heart.

And so I think it’s a damnable heresy to teach that Christians can go around just telling God what they did and expect that regardless of their attitude in the matter that the cross uh… gamut however uh… my my my comment or my question rather is this uh… if in fact judas had not be trade christ then what would have happened to well he was still good help because he never was a believer john six sixty four says he was an unbelievable so because he never trusted christ uh…

judas was lost in and was still going to help he didn’t know because he was a great christian go to help because he committed suicide a lot of people uh… teach the jews what the hell because he committed suicide that’s not true either well i understand and i do think that we’re not justified by our works uh… or say that i work for the planet that way but uh… but the scripture does teach by the works you will know them uh…

with the stock which is something that you were just describing in reference to penny and and then in of twenty and eleven the bible says that even a child is known to be pure or evil by his works even by the nichards so so my question again uh… is this apparently you believe that if judders had been saved and and and i mean uh… live it going to your church and attend your church and had your blessing and then be trade price that he still could not have gone to hell he would have gone straight to heaven if he had been a believer now as far as that you shall know the mother works that is not really what it says that maybe seven Christ was talking about false teachers and he says you should know them by their fruit.

Now fruit there I believe is their converts or their proselytes. In other words he talks about a good tree bringing forth good fruit and evil or corrupt tree bringing forth evil fruit. So I believe for example the Jehovah’s Witnesses. I don’t have to go to Brooklyn, New York to the head of the Watchtower Society to discover that the chose witnesses are wrong, all I have to do is examine their fruit when they come knocking on my door. The same thing is true of the Mormons.

I just examine their fruit when they knock on my door. I don’t have to go out to Utah, to Salt Lake City, to their headquarters to discover that. And so it’s saying there, in other words, hopefully you would learn a lot about me by talking to somebody maybe I’ve led to Christ and taught that they would be hopefully sound in doctrine and they would have salvation correct and have received the Lord as their Savior. So I think that we’re looking at works.

Sometimes the cults have better works than genuine Christians and that’s an unfortunate embarrassment to us. But definitely the fruit when you examine the fruit as to what they believe about Christ and about the major doctrines of the Bible there is seriously flawed. I’ll let you clarify for me again that you believe that if Judas had been a genuine Christian, if he had genuinely at some time been saved at even though he would be trade Christ, he still would have went to heaven.

Absolutely. Jesus made the statement in John 637, him that cometh to me, I will in no wise cast out. That means for no reason or any circumstance would he ever cast you out. And even more, and better than that is John 639 where Christ said, this is the Father’s will, which has sent me that of all of which He had given me, I should lose none. But raise them up again at the last day. And so He would not lose any.

So if Judas were saved, he could not lose even Judas, because He said he would not lose any, and that was God the Father’s, of course, will. Thank you very much, Nathan. I have to run, but you made a good point on the confession. But I think the issue goes back on that to is it a requirement? We are now ready to go to the end of the program and the music program. Or anything. It’s not even our prayer.

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